Chinese Radar Developments - KLJ series and others

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taxiya

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SinoSoldier said:
An article from Ordnance Technology, reporting from the Zhuhai Airshow, claimed that both the J-20 and J-16 are equipped a wide-angle AESA radar with three arrays (two to the side).

Any idea how credible Ordnance Technology is?

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"Ordnance Technology" was not and is not related to military industrial institutions.

However, 14th institute's web site claims that "3 panel AESA" is an off-shelf product, can be installed whenever demanded by customer. The question is where are the possible locations on J-20 and J-16 for the extra panels. We have some reasonable suggestions for J-20, but not J-16 yet (partially due to lack of recent photos). It is more of a challenge to the airframe and power source for the extra panels than the radar itself.
 
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Successful flight test of Tera-Hertz Video Synthetic Aperture Radar (THz ViSAR) :enjoy::D
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WU Jian Qi, chief engineer of the CETC group, confirms that a metric radar detected and traced the route of an F-22 at a distance of 450 km in 2013, whereas none of the other Chinese radars saw it . Today these metric radars cover all coastal areas.

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Still according to WU, these metric radars are precise enough today to be able to guide the Chinese Navy's air and antiaircraft forces in interception missions.

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Hendrik_2000 said:
WU Jian Qi, chief engineer of the CETC group, confirms that a metric radar detected and traced the route of an F-22 at a distance of 450 km in 2013, whereas none of the other Chinese radars saw it . Today these metric radars cover all coastal areas.



Still according to WU, these metric radars are precise enough today to be able to guide the Chinese Navy's air and antiaircraft forces in interception missions.
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That is the radar horizon if the radar was on sea level, and the F-22 was on 12 km altitude.

The pictures showing YLC-8b , 20 (h)*22(v) element AESA VHF radar.

It would be more interesting if the radar in question was the JY-27A, that has low element count,96 only, means smaller, cheaper and possible to make more from the same resources

And easier to pack up and move, the YLC-8b looks like a monster.
 
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chickenhero3830 said:
I see no number "450km" in your pictures
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During a talk holding in a research workshop, the chief scientist of the China's largest radar group, CETC, Dr Wu Jianqi, told the audience that China's anti-stealth radar is the world most advanced anti-stealth radar.

It solved all the tech difficulties that other countries failed to solve and the 4th generation anti-stealth radar CETC developed, their radar, is the world's only anti-stealth radar that can not only spot but also track and guide fire-control radar to attack enemy stealth aircrafts in a range of over 500 km.

During the talk, he give an example that their last generation anti-stealth radar trackF-22 fighters in East Asia flying 450 km away.

And he told the audience China airforce now cover the entire China coastline with such highly advanced anti-stealth radar, such that US stealth fighters will be meaningless.
 
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During a talk holding in a research workshop, the chief scientist of the China's largest radar group, CETC, Dr Wu Jianqi, told the audience that China's anti-stealth radar is the world most advanced anti-stealth radar.

It solved all the tech difficulties that other countries failed to solve and the 4th generation anti-stealth radar CETC developed, their radar, is the world's only anti-stealth radar that can not only spot but also track and guide fire-control radar to attack enemy stealth aircrafts in a range of over 500 km.

During the talk, he give an example that their last generation anti-stealth radar trackF-22 fighters in East Asia flying 450 km away.

And he told the audience China airforce now cover the entire China coastline with such highly advanced anti-stealth radar, such that US stealth fighters will be meaningless.
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With the logic of Huawei CFO arrest in Canada, would this power point presentation be a solid proof that China is preparing to attack USN? ;)
 
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Hendrik_2000 said:
WU Jian Qi, chief engineer of the CETC group, confirms that a metric radar detected and traced the route of an F-22 at a distance of 450 km in 2013, whereas none of the other Chinese radars saw it . Today these metric radars cover all coastal areas.

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Impressive! They would have made even more optimizations since 2013. Can you gents ID the Radars in that slide. There seem to be one OTH and one unknown system. Others seem to be JY-27A or maybe the YLC-8B? o_Oo_Oo_O

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During a talk holding in a research workshop, the chief scientist of the China's largest radar group, CETC, Dr Wu Jianqi, told the audience that China's anti-stealth radar is the world most advanced anti-stealth radar.

It solved all the tech difficulties that other countries failed to solve and the 4th generation anti-stealth radar CETC developed, their radar, is the world's only anti-stealth radar that can not only spot but also track and guide fire-control radar to attack enemy stealth aircrafts in a range of over 500 km.

During the talk, he give an example that their last generation anti-stealth radar trackF-22 fighters in East Asia flying 450 km away.

And he told the audience China airforce now cover the entire China coastline with such highly advanced anti-stealth radar, such that US stealth fighters will be meaningless.
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It has 20 element vertical count, the NEBOM-M has 7.

It still only km size box at 100nm distance.

It has better vertical resolution , but it is very big and bulky, and hard to move.
 
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taxiya

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Anlsvrthng said:
It has 20 element vertical count, the NEBOM-M has 7.

It still only km size box at 100nm distance.

It has better vertical resolution , but it is very big and bulky, and hard to move.
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Why being bulky is a problem? These are truck mounted semi-mobile air-defence (primarily early warning) radars. They do have the mobility to follow field airbase or the AA missile batteries.
Being "km size box at 100nm" is enough to lead the AA missile to reach the stealthy fighter within 1000 meters, does it not? And within 1000 meter, bare eye balls can see the aircraft, let alone the missile. I don't see a problem for "km size".
 
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