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ACuriousPLAFan

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a little more movement on this front. Rotational presence here where Cambodia stations its own navy is probably the most logical solution that would also work with Cambodian constitution. Now, they can do free lease of air defense equipment in the area also.
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Doing a major overhall and expansion to a small naval base and giving away two newly-built FFLs (both commissioned merely 3 years ago) to Cambodia in exchange for exclusive access and long-term (albeit rotational) presence to said naval base that can cover the entirety of the Malacca & Singapore Straits, as well as the entirety of the Andoman & Niccobar Islands within a 1500-kilometer (also YJ-21, CJ-10 etc's strike) radius... That's going to be a deal that's too good to be passed up by China.

Perhaps China can follow suit with the transfer of light fighters, light transporters and helicopters to the Cambodian Air Force, while helping with upgrades and expansion of their air force facilities at Phnom Penh International Airport (also known as Pochentong Air Base, which is slated for largely military-only use after Techno International Airport is opened).

Time to make Ream and Pochentong into China's version of Changi and Paya Lebar.
 
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Doing a major overhall and expansion to a small naval base and giving away two newly-built FFLs (both commissioned merely 3 years ago) to Cambodia in exchange for exclusive access and long-term (albeit rotational) presence to said naval base that can cover the entirety of the Malacca & Singapore Straits, as well as the entirety of the Andoman & Niccobar Islands within a 1500-kilometer (also YJ-21, CJ-10 etc's strike) radius... That's going to be a deal that's too good to be passed up by China.

Perhaps China can follow suit with the transfer of light fighters, light transporters and helicopters to the Cambodian Air Force, while helping with upgrades and expansion of their air force facilities at Phnom Penh International Airport (also known as Pochentong Air Base, which is slated for largely military-only use after Techno International Airport is opened).

Time to make Ream and Pochentong into China's version of Changi and Paya Lebar.
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I think we have to be very careful about this. Too much of this stuff and Cambodia wouldn't be able to say there isn't a base thee anymore.
 
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I think we have to be very careful about this. Too much of this stuff and Cambodia wouldn't be able to say there isn't a base thee anymore.
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Well, I don't call (and won't be calling) for a permanent, fully or jointly-owned base(s) in Cambodia precisely for the reasons you mentioned.

Different to the likes of Yokosuka or Djibouti - Ream could be made to function more like Singapore's Changi Naval Base, which is fully under RSN authority, but have naval facilities that allows not just Singaporean, but also US and UK warships to resupply and recuperate.
 
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Now, US is getting nervous about China building bases in Atlantic side of Africa.
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And the US is perfectly happy with 300+ bases and installations surrounding China?

Screw'em. Time for Chinese SSBNs (and hopefully SSGNs too) to conduct regular deterrence patrols in the Atlantic, especially along the Eastern Seaboard of CONUS.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1836391469633962150

I assume this is more like the Ream port arrangement rather than like your typical American base. I don't think China wants a permanent base in Pakistan that would be subject to terrorist attacks from Balochistan people.

here is the report by Ryan Grim on this

 
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I don't see how overseas bases will help China fend off an attempted naval blockade by the U.S.

If the situation gets so bad that the U.S. Navy is actively blockading China, no country will dare to host the Chinese military. It's one thing to do it in peace time, but it's a different matter to do it during an ongoing military conflict. No country wants to invite aggression from the US military. To a lesser extent, the same will be true for overseas American bases within reach of the Chinese military. I expect some of those will get shut down as well.

I can't imagine overseas Chinese bases having any use outside of peace time, at least not for the foreseeable future.
 
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I don't see how overseas bases will help China fend off an attempted naval blockade by the U.S.

If the situation gets so bad that the U.S. Navy is actively blockading China, no country will dare to host the Chinese military. It's one thing to do it in peace time, but it's a different matter to do it during an ongoing military conflict. No country wants to invite aggression from the US military. To a lesser extent, the same will be true for overseas American bases within reach of the Chinese military. I expect some of those will get shut down as well.

I can't imagine overseas Chinese bases having any use outside of peace time, at least not for the foreseeable future.
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think more as an output rather than a full fledged base. But I see no reason why they can't defend a base in Gwadar. They have direct overland access and they train regularly with Pakistan army, who also basically just use Chinese weapons.
 
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Chinas strategy is to make the Pakistan Navy powerful not to gain bases. Cambodia and Bangladesh are also getting bases, but it is for them, not for China. They won’t stop at Pakistan either.

If they are really doing this then soon we will see bases in Maldives, Sri Lanka, Madagascar, Tanzania etc.
 
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