Chinese Marine Propulsion

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Harbin electric unveiled the first prototype of the 16MW HGT16 gas turbine. It doesn't appear to be fully assembled yet. Dimensions are 6m x 2.4m x 2.8m. Inlet temperature is around 1500 Kelvins. Efficiency is ≥36%.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Looks to be patent application related to the aero-derivative, 40MW-class QC400 intercooled marine gas turbine engine, which is jointly developed by AECC and CSSC.

Posted by @勤劳朴实罗素历 on Weibo.

We may actually see both simple-cycle CGT-40M and intercooled QC400 onboard next-gen PLAN warships in the future.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Looks to be patent application related to the aero-derivative, 40MW-class QC400 intercooled marine gas turbine engine, which is jointly developed by AECC and CSSC.

Posted by @勤劳朴实罗素历 on Weibo.

We may actually see both simple-cycle CGT-40M and intercooled QC400 onboard next-gen PLAN warships in the future.

To further expand on the bolded sentence:

It has been observed (from academic papers/patent applications/tender documents) that the CGT-30M/40M can be utilized for both ship propulsion and shipboard power-generation, whereas the QC400 will only utilized for shipboard power-generation.

That is:
1. DDGs (& potentially FFGs) using CODLAG/CODLOG systems with CGT-30Ms/40Ms driving propeller shafts (and diesel engines providing power to electric propulsion motor and shipboard power usage); and
2. LHD/As and CVs (& potentially CGs) using IEP system with CGT-30Ms/40Ms and/or QC400s generating power for ship propulsion and shipboard power usage (with or without combination with diesel engines).

In fact, China could quite well be the only country to have two different 40MW-class gas turbine engine models employed onboard her warships in the coming future.
 
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Red tsunami

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Looks to be patent application related to the aero-derivative, 40MW-class QC400 intercooled marine gas turbine engine, which is jointly developed by AECC and CSSC.

Posted by @勤劳朴实罗素历 on Weibo.

We may actually see both simple-cycle CGT-40M and intercooled QC400 onboard next-gen PLAN warships in the future.

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According to this blogger, the power generation capacity of QC400 is 50MW class.

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tphuang

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月26日,由中国船舶旗下中船温特图尔发动机有限公司(WinGD)研发、中船动力建造的世界最大功率甲醇双燃料船用主机在上海举行全球首发及交付仪式。该主机将工业酒精甲醇作为燃料,设计最大功率可达64500千瓦,重量达到1953吨,被称为船舶“心脏”中的巨无霸。该型发动机采用先进的数字化智能控制系统,实现了甲醇替代传统柴油动力率超95%,减少二氧化碳排放超7.5%,这台主机运行300天,它减排的碳排放量相当于72000辆普通家用燃油车一年的排放量

64.5MW is a pretty powerful engine

new generation of green fuel marine engine

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近日,中国船级社(CCS)青岛分社向潍柴重机颁发了WH25、170 B100生物柴油船用发动机型式认可证书。
该发动机可靠性高,具有优异的排放性能、广泛的功率覆盖范围以及成熟的配套方案,对燃油系统进行匹配优化后,与普通柴油对比碳排放降低50%、烟度降低80%、PM降低50%,满足IMO TierⅡ要求,为绿色能源转型提供了解决方案。
also has this WH25 and 170 B100 biodiesel marine engine.

近日,华滋能源为大船海工建造的四船套7500立方米液态二氧化碳(LCO₂)液货罐项目圆满收官。
该船货罐通过特种低温高强钢、低温焊接材料及创新厚板焊接工艺,确保了货罐在极端条件下的安全性与稳定性,全面满足挪威船级社(DNV)的严格标准认证。同时,低温高压设计有效降低了运输及碳捕集全流程能耗,显著提升了环保性能。
4 7500 cm3 liquid CO2 cargo tanks
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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According to this blogger, the power generation capacity of QC400 is 50MW class.

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Apparently he said that the 50MW figure is confirmed.

So if the claim is accurate and WS-10-derived QC400 made it onboard future PLAN warships - Then China is definitely making history. Namely, the first ever marine gas turbine engine of the 50MW-category in the world.

Probably best to take his takes with a grain of salt... I find some of them are... kinda wild...

Per my observation thus far, he seems reliable. And without anyone on Weibo that is comparable to him in the fields of Chinese marine propulsion systems enough to be an alternative for the time being, he's my go-to source.
 
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