Chinese MALE, HALE (and rotary, small, suicide) UAV/UCAV thread

Deino

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U sure this isn't some Cessna they gave a new paintjob? Cause there are quite a few features that aren't needed on a pure drone like those cockpit windows and doors.


Exactly my concern too! Not they I think it is just an original Cessna, but if you build a dedicated transport UAV, why then retaining the original cockpit shape? Would at least a revised aerodynamics be better?
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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U sure this isn't some Cessna they gave a new paintjob? Cause there are quite a few features that aren't needed on a pure drone like those cockpit windows and doors.

Exactly my concern too! Not they I think it is just an original Cessna, but if you build a dedicated transport UAV, why then retaining the original cockpit shape? Would at least a revised aerodynamics be better?

Obviously some sort of commercial aircraft with remote/self-flying controls added, my concern is actually more that will they add proper sensors like cameras on the aircraft or will it just fly "blind" with SatNav only?
 

plawolf

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I wonder what the trade off is for the lancet esq X-Wing design vs a more conventional loitering munition layout like the ZT-10, seems like you're trading some range/payload size for minor gains in maneuverbility.

I think the main trade-off is weight vs endurance. Speed and cost may also be a factor.

The X wing designs generate more lift, but also more drag.

This means for launching X wing designs, you either need a catapult, rocket or a much bigger compressed gas charge compared to a conventional wing design. On top of that, the bigger and more wings themselves are also much heavier.

All of that translates into more weight (and cost). Not really a major issue for vehicle mounted or more strategic weapons, but if you want infantry to hump these UCAVs round on foot, that’s going to present problems.

Conventional wing layout drones are probably intended for general infantry issue and use, like a Digital Age RPGs, so they need to light and cheap enough to add to a soldier’s regular kit without needing to take too much off him to compensate and not break the bank in doing so.

For general infantry issue, speed would also be important since a lot of the time your troops will be deploying these while in a firefight, so seconds can cost lives.

The man portable X wing attack munitions are probably more intended for special forces use, like what we have seen with Russian special forces humping lancets deep behind enemy lines to hit high value targets.
 

by78

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UAVs on display at the ongoing Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition and Conference (DIMDEX 2024).

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pevade

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UAVs on display at the ongoing Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition and Conference (DIMDEX 2024).

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What is the large black and gold missile called? (The one in the center and behind two smaller missile models)
 
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