Chinese MALE, HALE (and rotary, small, suicide) UAV/UCAV thread

pevade

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Is probably simplier to use a full electric setup for small size but when size go up, hybrid drive/oil burning UAVs is just way better. Maybe there's some advantage to use full electric to limit noise in some situation but having a battery is way costlier than a fuel tank...
There are also hybrid solutions like electric for VTOL and fuel for the forward flight pushprop
 

Atomicfrog

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There are also hybrid solutions like electric for VTOL and fuel for the forward flight pushprop
Was talking about that.... some propose all electric and some not. Battery is probably the costly part of an all electric design, but noise of a fuel engine for the pushprop is probably a limiting factor in some area.

It's why they are probably proposing all electric ones that are quieter even if an hybrid one would deliver better range.

Size is probably a limiting factor for fitting a fuel pushprop engine too.
 

by78

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WZ-10 in a hangar.

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by78

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LQ-218 VTOL UAV from Xi'an Aisheng UAV Technology Ltd. (
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), especially suited for high-altitude (Tibet) operations. The naval variant comes with a heavy oil engine.

- Max takeoff weight: 100kg
- Ceiling: 7000m
- Wingspan: 5.2m
- Length: 2.8m
- Payload capacities: 5kg/20kg/30kg
- Max takeoff altitude: 4500m from sea level
- Min operating temperature: -40°C

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A brochure from Xi'an Aisheng UAV Technology Ltd. (
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) that has a easy reference table on the LQ series of naval VTOL UAVs.

The row headings are, from top to bottom: 1) Length, 2) Wingspan, 3) Max takeoff weight, 4) Max payload, 5) Endurance, 6) Ceiling, 7) Deck area required for takeoff and landing, 8) Propulsion type.

Only the last row (propulsion type) needs translation: LQ-206 and -217 are pure electric, LQ-230 is driven by heavy oil piston engine, and LQ-218 is driven by heavy oil/gasoline engine.

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tankphobia

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A brochure from Xi'an Aisheng UAV Technology Ltd. (
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) that has a easy reference table on the LQ series of naval VTOL UAVs.

The row headings are, from top to bottom: 1) Length, 2) Wingspan, 3) Max takeoff weight, 4) Max payload, 5) Endurance, 6) Ceiling, 7) Deck area required for takeoff and landing, 8) Propulsion type.

Only the last row (propulsion type) needs translation: LQ-206 and -217 are pure electric, LQ-230 is driven by heavy oil piston engine, and LQ-218 is driven by heavy oil/gasoline engine.

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To beat a dead horse, from the brochure a heavy oil based UAV is vastly more capable then a purely electric one and is not much heavier, it seems that for most applications it is more desirable to simply pay the premium.
 

Taiban

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Chinese Sunflower 200 Suicide UAV
Launch was from:
36.3915, 108.0679
near "Qingyang Huachi General Airport" (庆阳华池通用机场) at Yangshanzhuang, Liuwan Village, Rouyuan Town, Huachi County, Qingyang, Gansu, China

The event took place approximately between late summer of 2022 and early summer of 2023.

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by78

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The JY260 large high-subsonic stealthy target drone. Capable of simulating 3rd- and 4th-gen fighter targets as well as cruise missiles. Comes in army and naval variants. Highly maneuverable.

Length: 4m
Wingspan: 1.6m
Takeoff weight: 190+ kg
Max level speed: 270m/s
Ceiling: 12000m
Min. Altitude: 20m (land variant), 5m (naval variant)
Endurance: 70 min
Remote control radius: 150km
Capable of swarm/formation flying: a formation of 16 drones flying at 30m apart can be controlled from a single console (?).
Payload capacity: 35kg
Payloads: EW suite, Luneburg lens, decoys, chaff, seeker simulators, etc.
Positioning system: Beidou and inertial.
Steath: adjustable RCS, from 0.01m2 to 3m2.

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