Yea Wang Yi is moving up so we won't get to see him often anymore, we'll see him pop out occasionally to give spankings to non-friendly countries.
Chinese Internal Politics
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The event of HK stock market crashing after 20th CPC congress is not as described by western MSM or financial news, e.g, "Investors losing confidence in China's economy", it's a coordinated attacked on HK's financial market by George Soros and his dogs, with backing of Wall Street and in turn, silent backing of US government.
How so, you might wonder ? As soon as the PBSC members are clear to public, two rumors started to spread in HK. One is HK dollar will be replaced by RMB in the future (HK dollar is pegged entirely to US dollar, more so than RMB). The second is that HK's SAR status will be revoked in the future to make it directly rule city （直辖市), similar to Beijing, Shanghai, Chongqing, etc.
That by itself created the panic on the financial market in HK. Plus the foreign money start to short HK stocks.
Rumor has it, once the shorting started, China is pumping 50 mil RMB per minute to prop up HK stock exchange, in tune to about 20 bil RMB per day. The bleeding slowed down on second day, reversed on the third day.
Given what happened on1997-98 HK stock market, one can almost certain, Soros and their dogs has a hand in it this time as well.
One thing those fucker don't learn is that China today is not what she was in 1997.
Also given western MSM calling Xi's inner circle the "war cabinet", Soros' basically got what the Americans would called " F... around and find out" this time as well, Soros' tried to take a dump on China this time, only got their shit pushed back in, same like the last time.
I heard the same rumours. It was them trying to poke and prod the Chinese govt before the congress with coup rumors and semiconductor blockade then after the congress with massive sell off.
Always trying to make china off balance. But china is too strong and has too many resources to be destabilized. But they did this to many other counties in the past, eg Argentina. Those counties were not strong enough to resist.
Sorry it's written in Mandarin
But apparently the new chief propaganda guy was once studied in a Harvard executive class back in 90s and he already postulated conflict between business leftist (woke?) and conservative blue collar (MAGA & populist right wing). Something that just exploded at most 10 years ago.
Brilliant I must say.
But apparently the new chief propaganda guy was once studied in a Harvard executive class back in 90s and he already postulated conflict between business leftist (woke?) and conservative blue collar (MAGA & populist right wing). Something that just exploded at most 10 years ago.
Brilliant I must say.
Hopefully this new chief of China's propaganda department (officially the Publicity Department of the CPC) can actually excel in his job and role much better than his predecessors. And for g0d's sake, this new chief better work to make China's level to be at least on par with Russia's.
I have seen someone stating that, at present, China trying to fight the propaganda war against the US is equivalent to a kid trying to fight against an adult boxer. That claim is far from wrong.
And seriously, remember several months ago when some users in this forum claimed that China does not need soft power to rise into prominence in the eyes of the world? I call that absolute cr4p. Why? Because they neglected/disregarded how successful the CIA has been conducting propaganda and psychological warfares across the world for the past 75 years, and is still doing that today with remarkable brilliance.
Just take a look at how many 反贼s and 汉奸s are still out there today.
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China far exceeds Russia when it comes to managing its relations both domestically and with foreign countries though.
Russia is shown that it cannot ask too much at once from its population... The people are generally not too happy or too satisfied. You think for example if China asked for people to take up extraordinary circumstances, any people would start shooting others, or that there would be widespread internal rumor mongering and corruption over it?
The same goes for America but on a lesser scale. US has a well developed propaganda structure, but more importantly, they practice a completely different type of control than China does, which would never work on the CN population. Different doesn't necessarily mean better.
America's main control is practiced through aggressively buying out almost all domestic journalists and influencers, pressures the rest into obeying through social pressure. They can create hate and rewrite events on a scale which China can't, but the drawback is that these militarized media structures acquire a life of their own because each try to one up the other. As such, it is exceptionally difficult for America to hit the back gear, even when not hitting the back gear would be disastrous.
In contrast, China can easily admit fault and then backtrack on bad policies. This creates a scale of adaptation and cohesion that is impossible for America with its heavy focus on face to achieve.
You should not conflate spiritual victories with real victories. In terms of securing spiritual victories, America really is like an adult boxer fighting against China who is like a child. Because US cares a lot about these. Americans will lose wars, get slapped in the face by other countries due to lacking soft power, make a shit show at home due to bad/out of control propaganda etc. And US press will always try and claim the spiritual victory, such as "it is ok that we lost EU's industries, this is just the Ukraine gambit that means we sacrifice EU (why tho?) for our own benefits!", or "we lost x war because we got tired of fighting (why do you get tired so easily if your propaganda is good?)".
In terms of international standing, China had to reconstruct after ww2 and wasted time being with the USSR, which was not competently managed. America had a lot of time to slowly subvert the international order and bring countries into their orbit such as those in the EU which became debt dependent and their media was taken over by America.
Nonetheless, China today should have an overall better international standing given that they remain convincingly neutral, letting them draw benefits from everywhere, while still poking EU and OPEC whenever possible. When the results of Scholz and MBS visits arrive we will see more how much diplomatic strength China truly has, if major deals can be linked or not.
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Any idea on this new state security chief's past performance?
Wang Hunning saw this happen as early as 1988.
Hate them or love them but many people of the current Chinese leadership are way more astute politically than their current Western counterparts.
I think we have to distinguish between how the Chinese are perceived by the global ruling elite and the global population at large. When it comes to the global Western population, we are seeing the Western media at work and there is simply no competition from China. China can make some feeble attempt to change this situation, but the game is completely rigged plus the West can still change the game if we are perceived to be losing.
The global ruling elite consumes different kinds of information and hopefully come to a different conclusion. While we talk a good game about human rights etc., what we respect at the end is power. Maybe a few young rulers in Eastern Europe maybe not up to the task, but vast majority of the people running even Western countries understand this calculus. When Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan, the Chinese military exercise can be viewed as Chinese aggression towards Taiwan, at least in the media, but the ruling elites will see the display of hard Chinese power and will also see the weak response from the U.S.
It does not mean that upon one display of such power, these people will fall to the feet of the Chinese, but over time, this will produce many subtle changes. Signs of these abound. Putin invading Ukraine would have been unthinkable in the nineties, when China was much weaker. The Solomon Islands defying Australia would also not have been possible without a strong Chinese navy. The Saudis defying the U.S. would not be possible without this change in perception. Scholz visiting China is yet another example.
In the longer run, the vilification of China in the eyes of the general public will prove to have negative consequence for the West more than it will hurt China. Since the West are democracies, these negative views of China in the eyes of the public paints the ruling elites into a corner. I feel that China and the U.S. are already equals in power. If anything, the Chinese are ahead of us even as we speak. It is no question that in a decade, the disparity will grow much larger. If you become number two and the other guy accelerates his dominance, a graceful exit is critical in preserving your status as number two and slow down your decline, but that will run diametrically opposed to the narratives that are portraited by the media. Given mediocrity of our ruling class, it is hard to imagine that we will find someone with the wisdom and courage to run against this narrative.