Chinese Grenade Launcher II

no_name

Colonel
Maybe they have dropped the OICW concept and decided that grenade launcher and guns should have separate platform. Or could this be in experimental stage, or as a interm proposal.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
He's right the weapon is a heavily modified but at its heart is a QBZ series weapon, out fitted with a laser engagement system. Although it's hard to figure why the Chinese would train with a system that simulates a weapon yet differs so much from the standard.
 

rhino123

Pencil Pusher
VIP Professional
He's right the weapon is a heavily modified but at its heart is a QBZ series weapon, out fitted with a laser engagement system. Although it's hard to figure why the Chinese would train with a system that simulates a weapon yet differs so much from the standard.

Well... I think that system is use to aid in anti-tank missiles system or make it easy for an air strike. Making it look and feel like a weapon might ease handling and making it easier for the soldiers to hold, aim and activate.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Not sure if these are shotguns or grenade launchers. Maybe fake guns. This is supposedly some anti-tank exercise.

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no atgm in sight and although blurred the weapons in the hands of the troops in the background look about the same. Also we have seen Pla laser designation devices they tend to look like Soflam, this looks like its attached to a assault rifle.
building a laser designation device like a weapon has been done before but normally they do it like a pistol as its easer to carry then a second full sized long arm.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
If this was a laser designator, here are the problems I see with it.
1) if you wanted to repackage a laser for target designating why package it in a assault rifle shape? I mean a DMR rifle would be better suited. It has a bipod for stability and is configured for optics.
additionally why would you replicate the muzzle? I mean its a laser all you need is a lenses. And why would you burden a soldier with a second system that looks like his primary weapon? I mean 0200 hours he runs into.trouble grabs the first thing he feels that feels.like his weapon only to lase for a air strike that is not coming.
2) size. We have seen laser designation devices from the Pla before. They were kinda big. Normally if something is more advanced it gets smaller. This would be bigger. Objectively if you wanted to issue a designation device and have the user aim like a weapon then what you would want would be the size of a large submachine pistol with a stock. So the user can pull stabilize and aim. You don't need to replicate a full long gun all you need is something easy to use easy to carry. Best case might be a little bigger then the CF 05 or maybe the grenade launcher on a qbz 95. Which brings up another.option why not just mount it to the primary arm and lase using a button you mount to the trigger guard?

really the only option that makes sense is that the PLA uses these as laser simulation weapons or opfor training.
 

MwRYum

Major
If this was a laser designator, here are the problems I see with it.
1) if you wanted to repackage a laser for target designating why package it in a assault rifle shape? I mean a DMR rifle would be better suited. It has a bipod for stability and is configured for optics.
additionally why would you replicate the muzzle? I mean its a laser all you need is a lenses. And why would you burden a soldier with a second system that looks like his primary weapon? I mean 0200 hours he runs into.trouble grabs the first thing he feels that feels.like his weapon only to lase for a air strike that is not coming.
2) size. We have seen laser designation devices from the Pla before. They were kinda big. Normally if something is more advanced it gets smaller. This would be bigger. Objectively if you wanted to issue a designation device and have the user aim like a weapon then what you would want would be the size of a large submachine pistol with a stock. So the user can pull stabilize and aim. You don't need to replicate a full long gun all you need is something easy to use easy to carry. Best case might be a little bigger then the CF 05 or maybe the grenade launcher on a qbz 95. Which brings up another.option why not just mount it to the primary arm and lase using a button you mount to the trigger guard?

really the only option that makes sense is that the PLA uses these as laser simulation weapons or opfor training.

I don't think those are lasers, but one of those "blinding laser units" first reported a few years ago.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I don't think those are lasers, but one of those "blinding laser units" first reported a few years ago.

I don't think so. If it was a dazzler why would he be in a foxhole? And why is it shaped like a rifle complete with muzzle. No its a laser engagement system for training and the nail that clinched it for me is they are wearing laser receivers on there gear. You can see them on the helmets and on the vests. It looks like they stopped issuing the Hemet smokers too.
 
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