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Equation

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Just fine thank you.
There are a lot of hearing done by various independent groups and TEPCO is paying her dues for past misdeeds.
How is Jiang Zemin doing after many of his cronies had been convicted for abuse of power and corruption?

You mean Japan hasn't even arrest or charge any of TEPCO's executives and the government bodies that relates to them?
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Xi Jinping said China supports Argentina's sovereignty claims on the Falkland Islands. What I want to know is if China also support UK's claims on the same, so it could play both sides of the dispute. And if it doesn't support Britain's position, what's China's rationale for favoring one side over the other.

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BUENOS AIRES, July 18 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping and his Argentine counterpart, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, agreed here Friday to upgrade bilateral ties to a comprehensive strategic partnership.

Bilateral cooperation has made tremendous progress since the two countries established a strategic partnership 10 years ago, Xi said in his talks with the Argentine president.

In order to promote the future development of bilateral ties, the two sides have decided to lift their relationship from a strategic partnership to a comprehensive strategic partnership, added Xi, who is here for a state visit to the South American country.

Noting that China and Argentina are both emerging-market economies at an important phase of development, Xi said they should stick to the in-the-same-boat spirit and deepen cooperation so as to tackle challenges and achieve common development.

He also urged the two countries to learn from each other's governance experiences, facilitate personnel exchanges and carry out more cultural exchanges.

The two sides, he said, should promote stable and balanced growth of bilateral trade, actively boost cooperation in such fields as gas, mining industry, agriculture and nuclear power, and deepen strategic cooperation in infrastructure construction and finance.

In addition, he suggested that the two sides strengthen communication and coordination on such major issues as global governance and the reform of international economic and financial systems, defend the rights of developing countries, and push for a more equitable and reasonable world order.

For her part, Cristina said the two countries share similar stands on a number of major issues and bilateral ties have strategic and global significance.

The establishment of the comprehensive strategic partnership serves the fundamental interests of both countries and peoples, and is conducive to the democratization of international relations, she added.

Argentina admires China's development, and is willing to learn from its successful experiences, she said, adding that her country also stands ready to boost cooperation with China under multilateral frameworks like the United Nations and the Group of 20.

The Argentine president also expressed her country's concern on its debt disputes with so-called "vulture" funds in the United States.

In response, Xi said the Chinese side understands Argentina's concern on debt restructuring and hopes that the issue will be settled properly.

Following their talks, the two leaders witnessed the signing of a joint statement and a series of bilateral cooperation deals.

According to the statement, the two leaders agreed to keep frequent communication on bilateral relations and issues of common concern, and pledged to deepen political mutual trust and support the development paths and core interests of each other's countries.

The Argentine side reiterated that it firmly sticks to the one-China policy and supports China's efforts to achieve peaceful reunification.

In response, Xi said China firmly supports Argentina's claim of the sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands and the restart of negotiations based on relevant UN resolutions to solve the issue in a peaceful way.

The two presidents spoke highly of the founding of the China-Argentina inter-governmental standing committee, calling on relevant departments of the two sides to give full play to this mechanism, so as to secure sustained and comprehensive development of bilateral relations.

The two leaders also expressed satisfaction over the convening of the first China-Argentina Strategic Dialogue on Economic Cooperation and Coordination during Xi's visit.

The two countries, as representatives of the emerging-market economies, play important roles in the international arena and share extensive common interests and similar stances on many international and regional issues, the statement said.

The two sides agreed that the international community should take joint action to prevent speculative capital from hindering the restructuring of sovereign debt.

The two countries, according to the statement, also agreed to join hands in the construction of a heavy water reactor power plant in Argentina.

Argentina is the second leg of Xi's four-nation Latin America tour, which will also take him to Venezuela and Cuba. He visited Brazil earlier in the trip, his second to the region since he took over the presidency in March 2013.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The big lie that the West puts out is they're the ones that invested in China to make it what it is today. That's a spin because the money from the 80s and 90s came from overseas Chinese mainly. You don't invest unless you can make money and you still hear the stereotype how Western companies don't get a break and make no money in China. Many Western corporations had that attitude and were reluctant. China was a risk just like how US oil companies see Iraq as a risk. Chinese take risks that others don't hence why you see the complaining about how the Chinese won the Iraq War not the US. Same with Africa. Western companies aren't going to risk their investment hence they wouldn't have entered China without the Chinese paving the way. You're going to see that in Africa too. Also I thought the Chinese government was corrupt. So how did Japanese aid or anyone else who wants to lay claim help spur Chinese economic growth if the communist leaders just pocketed it?

Remember, all the stuff they say about China was first said about Japan all the way up to the 90s. And that's where it came from because of stereotypes. The Japanese guy in another forum I mentioned earlier that thought Japanese were white therefore superior... he didn't believe Japanese products were ever considered cheap or shoddy. You know how they say Chinese are robots? The Japanese were stereotyped as robots. Chinese are war-like... Where do you think that stereotype came from? They say the Chinese stole technology... the same was said of Japan.

Japan doesn't get any of that negative attention these days. You know why? Nothing has changed in Japan. They still block foreigners from doing business in Japan. All the things complained about before are still in play. It's because attention has shifted over to China. And that says what is complained about is all geo-political not real.
 
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advill

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We in Singapore don't see anything wrong if a political party gets elected time and time again and forms the government. It was and will always be the people's choice in a free and fair elections (no stuffing of ballot boxes). We inherited the Parliamentary System from the British. Where Singaporeans are concerned, as long as (1) the party in power serves the people well, (2) the government is NOT corrupt, and (3) there is relatively freedom for people to criticize constructively, there would be no problem to elect whoever we feel will serve us well. The reason China is studying the Singapore system is because when the respected Chinese Leader Deng Seow Ping visited Singapore many years ago, he was astonished to see the tremendous progress made even though we are a small nation with no hinterland. Perhaps President Xi presently going after the corrupt CPC leaders/officials could be an example of following Singapore's action against corruption regardless of who the person is. Countries should have good, pragmatic and uncorrupt leadership, and Singaporeans are not naive and believe in these principles. We will jolly well vote out anyone or party who do not satisfy our needs. The nation has changed dramatically during the past years, and the ruling party/government knows it must continue to perform, and be realistic to the needs/opinions of the younger generation, otherwise the opposition parties will make inroads, as the Worker Party has done 2 years ago. So, are we a 1-party system or a democracy? We are NOT and can never be a demoCRAZY practiced by some countries who think they know everything about democracy but unfortunately cannot look after their own people needs. "Look at the beam in your eye before looking at the speck in other people's eye". Food for thought during Sunday service.



True, but let's be reasonable and agree Singapore has been dominated by the People's Action Party (PAP) since 1959, and is for all practical purposes a one-party government. Should the opposition ever gain control of the government, then that stigma goes away. The fact one party rule was done through democratic elections obfuscate what's at heart a single party political system, that's why the Communist Party of China studied Singapore so intently.
 
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Jeff Head

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Guys, the thread is drifting into predictions of war between the US and China...or China and Japan.

Such discussions are off limits on SD for obvious reasons.

I would recommend not going there. It will certainly lead to the thread being closed.

Take some time and discuss other geopolitical aspects of the PRC's future.

I will lead by example.

Where do most members feel that China will establish its first permanent military presences in Africa? That would be an interesting, and not as volatile a discussion.

Or. what do members think of President Xi Jinping's visit to South America and his clear schmoozing of Brazil and Agentina? I view Xi as a very personable and very smart leader. He is establishing stronger relations in South America and with important partners.

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BUENOS AIRES, July 18 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping and his Argentine counterpart, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, agreed here Friday to upgrade bilateral ties to a comprehensive strategic partnership.

Bilateral cooperation has made tremendous progress since the two countries established a strategic partnership 10 years ago, Xi said in his talks with the Argentine president.

In order to promote the future development of bilateral ties, the two sides have decided to lift their relationship from a strategic partnership to a comprehensive strategic partnership, added Xi, who is here for a state visit to the South American country.

Noting that China and Argentina are both emerging-market economies at an important phase of development, Xi said they should stick to the in-the-same-boat spirit and deepen cooperation so as to tackle challenges and achieve common development.

He also urged the two countries to learn from each other's governance experiences, facilitate personnel exchanges and carry out more cultural exchanges.

The two sides, he said, should promote stable and balanced growth of bilateral trade, actively boost cooperation in such fields as gas, mining industry, agriculture and nuclear power, and deepen strategic cooperation in infrastructure construction and finance.

In addition, he suggested that the two sides strengthen communication and coordination on such major issues as global governance and the reform of international economic and financial systems, defend the rights of developing countries, and push for a more equitable and reasonable world order.

For her part, Cristina said the two countries share similar stands on a number of major issues and bilateral ties have strategic and global significance.

The establishment of the comprehensive strategic partnership serves the fundamental interests of both countries and peoples, and is conducive to the democratization of international relations, she added.

Argentina admires China's development, and is willing to learn from its successful experiences, she said, adding that her country also stands ready to boost cooperation with China under multilateral frameworks like the United Nations and the Group of 20.

The Argentine president also expressed her country's concern on its debt disputes with so-called "vulture" funds in the United States.

In response, Xi said the Chinese side understands Argentina's concern on debt restructuring and hopes that the issue will be settled properly.

Following their talks, the two leaders witnessed the signing of a joint statement and a series of bilateral cooperation deals.

According to the statement, the two leaders agreed to keep frequent communication on bilateral relations and issues of common concern, and pledged to deepen political mutual trust and support the development paths and core interests of each other's countries.

The Argentine side reiterated that it firmly sticks to the one-China policy and supports China's efforts to achieve peaceful reunification.

In response, Xi said China firmly supports Argentina's claim of the sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands and the restart of negotiations based on relevant UN resolutions to solve the issue in a peaceful way.

The two presidents spoke highly of the founding of the China-Argentina inter-governmental standing committee, calling on relevant departments of the two sides to give full play to this mechanism, so as to secure sustained and comprehensive development of bilateral relations.

The two leaders also expressed satisfaction over the convening of the first China-Argentina Strategic Dialogue on Economic Cooperation and Coordination during Xi's visit.

The two countries, as representatives of the emerging-market economies, play important roles in the international arena and share extensive common interests and similar stances on many international and regional issues, the statement said.

The two sides agreed that the international community should take joint action to prevent speculative capital from hindering the restructuring of sovereign debt.

The two countries, according to the statement, also agreed to join hands in the construction of a heavy water reactor power plant in Argentina.

Argentina is the second leg of Xi's four-nation Latin America tour, which will also take him to Venezuela and Cuba. He visited Brazil earlier in the trip, his second to the region since he took over the presidency in March 2013.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Guys, the thread is drifting into predictions of war between the US and China...or China and Japan.

Such discussions are off limits on SD for obvious reasons.

I would recommend not going there. It will certainly lead to the thread being closed.

Take some time and discuss other geopolitical aspects of the PRC's future.

I will lead by example.

Where do most members feel that China will establish its first permanent military presences in Africa? That would be an interesting, and not as volatile a discussion.

Or. what do members think of President Xi Jinping's visit to South America and his clear schmoozing of Brazil and Agentina? I view Xi as a very personable and very smart leader. He is establishing stronger relations in South America and with important partners.

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A military base in the Western Hemisphere, even an elementary one, would provoke the US more than China wants to right now. I still think the first Chinese military overseas base will be a duel use Navy/civilian installation in either Tanzania or Seychelles, because anywhere near Pakistan or Sri Lanka would be too provocative to India.
 

solarz

Brigadier
A military base in the Western Hemisphere, even an elementary one, would provoke the US more than China wants to right now. I still think the first Chinese military overseas base will be a duel use Navy/civilian installation in either Tanzania or Seychelles, because anywhere near Pakistan or Sri Lanka would be too provocative to India.

That's assuming the Chinese even wants or needs an oversea military base. Any military needs overseas can, and should, be done under the auspices of the United Nations.
 

port_08

Junior Member
A military base in the Western Hemisphere, even an elementary one, would provoke the US more than China wants to right now. I still think the first Chinese military overseas base will be a duel use Navy/civilian installation in either Tanzania or Seychelles, because anywhere near Pakistan or Sri Lanka would be too provocative to India.
Agree, here China should value the relationship with India an up an coming economic power. Still India lacks some basic infrastructure need and poverty issue needs to be tackle. This area, China can assist with expertise and both are large market due their population. Potential is huge. A good relationship with India is beneficial to China in geopolitical sense. China need to give respect to India influence around Indian ocean and any move should not be overtly threatening to India. Here, open communication, transparency and more military to military contact would be helpful to bring this partnership further.
 
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