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China has been working on swivel nozzles for quite sometime. I first saw an image of an experimental swivel nozzle more than five years ago. It might have be the same design as shown in this latest image.
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China has been working on swivel nozzles for quite sometime. I first saw an image of an experimental swivel nozzle more than five years ago. It might have be the same design as shown in this latest image.
Oh dear... VTOL is just so boring lol. Hoping China isn't putting serious stock into developing and fielding VTOL fighters. For carriers (of nations with exceptional supply lines) and for countries like Sweden facing giants like Russia, okay yeah I can see the benefits. For China's situation, not so much. A project like this is pretty demanding.
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I’m hoping it will be for a drone. Might as well leapfrog.
Please, provide at least a translated summary and explain why thsi was posted? Most members here don't speak and read CHinese ...
China is already suing Motor Sich for breach of contract.
In an Ukrainian court? There may or may not be a country left soon.
Wasn't it some small time private company in China that wanted to buy Motor Sich? They went out of business recently as reported by Caixin in some other thread.
The whole point in buying Motor Sich (manufacturer NOT developer) was for that business to secure the supply AL-222 engine which that business knows the Chinese government has orders for AL-222.
The Chinese business that paid for Motor Sich wants to own the supply of AL-222 engines that would be purchased by the Chinese government for their L-15 trainer.
China's domestic engine developers and makers are far ahead of Ivchenko Progress and Motor Sich. It's just getting one small turbofan supplied by a foreign company because no Chinese business back in those days of L-15 development had a AL-222 equivalent and there were no AVIC projects for something like this as Motor Sich was supplying AL-222.
The sale wasn't successful but it's not some important project!
This is like how the US buys a frigate from Italian ship designers and builders. It doesn't mean much except they don't bother to develop and build that frigate themselves. It certainly doesn't mean the Italian shipbuilder is somehow ahead of the US and the US needs that.
AL-222 is an engine that both Russia and China bought from Ukraine until the supply issues and the political issues between Ukraine and Russia.
Russia now produces an AL-222 alternative which I think China simply just buys from Russia.
The whole point in buying Motor Sich (manufacturer NOT developer) was for that business to secure the supply AL-222 engine which that business knows the Chinese government has orders for AL-222.
The Chinese business that paid for Motor Sich wants to own the supply of AL-222 engines that would be purchased by the Chinese government for their L-15 trainer.
China's domestic engine developers and makers are far ahead of Ivchenko Progress and Motor Sich. It's just getting one small turbofan supplied by a foreign company because no Chinese business back in those days of L-15 development had a AL-222 equivalent and there were no AVIC projects for something like this as Motor Sich was supplying AL-222.
The sale wasn't successful but it's not some important project!
This is like how the US buys a frigate from Italian ship designers and builders. It doesn't mean much except they don't bother to develop and build that frigate themselves. It certainly doesn't mean the Italian shipbuilder is somehow ahead of the US and the US needs that.
AL-222 is an engine that both Russia and China bought from Ukraine until the supply issues and the political issues between Ukraine and Russia.
Russia now produces an AL-222 alternative which I think China simply just buys from Russia.