Chinese Engine Development
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Still don't know why people think what he has to say on this particular subject area is credible. We at least had credentials from pop3 and Gongke.
Hi,
by the way for safer side why can’t we assume 10/15% increase in thrust between B & C
type of engines, if USA can improve between 20/25% roughly if I may say for the sake of
knowledge let’s assume half of the improvement should be considered from Chinese side
to just for give & take
thank you
by the way for safer side why can’t we assume 10/15% increase in thrust between B & C
type of engines, if USA can improve between 20/25% roughly if I may say for the sake of
knowledge let’s assume half of the improvement should be considered from Chinese side
to just for give & take
thank you
WS-10's latest version's max Thrust is around 135Kn-140Kn, 150Kn+ is WS-15 aimed to achieve. And the initial version of WS-15's max thrust is around 150Kn, and later will be around 160Kn```````those 180Kn, 190Kn is no more than an ignorant delusion
And you are? You know this how, exactly?
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And your claims are based on....?
Not that I completely disagree, 190 kN is definitely a ridiculous figure unless you increase the bypass ratio quite significantly like the F135.
But how can you be sure? Are your claimed based on anything?
yes nobody said 190Kn.. but 150kn ? LOOOL
Paper published by ''Gas Turbine Experiment and Research'' back in 2004. targeting thrust of WS-15 engine..
2016-17 research paper
there is hardly any research paper in last 2 decades that i didn't read..
WS-15 main target was F-119 engine from the beginning. means 156-160kn total thrust and if someone says. WS-15 total thrust will be 150kn. he is lying and don't know anything.. and in 2018 Liming redesigned the machine to increase the specification and other technical parameters as China successfully masters the core technology of gas turbine..
WS-15 total thrust will be more than F-119. that's for sure
J-20 initial engine AL-31FM2 has 142kn of thrust. no way WS-10C has less thrust than its predecessor AL-31FM2.. common sense
we have some people with pessimistic thinking and habit to downplay their achievements.. nonsense
@ZeEa5KPul ..
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ok, I will show these "open source" to those guys, and I should mock them that cannt make an engine has better thrust than 119````
自从超大、铁血等等没了后，没边的红裤衩都来这里啦······不管10还是15，跟美帝的差距是全方位的，现在只是解决了有无的问题，推力只是达到了那个级别·····在可维护性，使用寿命，成品次品率方面还是全面落后。虽然团队没日没夜的干也不可能已经赶上了····还差了远了去咯·····
还悲观，真JB逗，跟院所里的人聊聊，多参与一些技术的开发，那真能颠覆你们的认知··
自从超大、铁血等等没了后，没边的红裤衩都来这里啦······不管10还是15，跟美帝的差距是全方位的，现在只是解决了有无的问题，推力只是达到了那个级别·····在可维护性，使用寿命，成品次品率方面还是全面落后。虽然团队没日没夜的干也不可能已经赶上了····还差了远了去咯·····
还悲观，真JB逗，跟院所里的人聊聊，多参与一些技术的开发，那真能颠覆你们的认知··
so here is the translation
Since the oversize, iron-blooded, etc. disappeared, the red pants with no hem are here... No matter 10 or 15, the gap with the American emperor is all-round. Now it only solves the problem of whether or not, thrust Just reaching that level...it still lags behind in terms of maintainability, service life, and finished product defective rate. Although the team worked day and night, it was impossible to catch up... It was still far away...
I'm still pessimistic. That's funny. Talk to people in the institute and get more involved in the development of some technologies. That can really subvert your cognition..
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not even a single member on this forum said this, Chinese engines have surpassed western counterparts ..
in this paragraph they are talking about maintainability , engine life span , MBTO and materials. USA is significantly ahead. everybody knows this. even i agreed. the pace of China's technological progress is unprecedented. by the of this decade China will become tier1 Engine manufacturer.
so let me educate you. Engine total thrust doesn't means China has surpassed Western Engines in maintainability and MBTO categories. LOOL
Russia/China can easily increase the thrust level of their engines to western counterparts but other aspects of engine like TIT/maintainability/MBTO is a different ballgame ... they have yet to reach that level..
hope things are clear now..
@ZeEa5KPul @Alfa_Particle
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