Chinese Engine Development

Im just wondering how many WZ-10 attack helicopters is China planing to buy? Since they will replace the WZ-9(30~40 in service) I am guessing they will buy around 40 WZ-10's.:china:

They're not meant to replace the WZ-9. Different roles.

SU-30 said:

Im just wondering how many WZ-10 attack helicopters is China planing to buy? Since they will replace the WZ-9(30~40 in service) I am guessing they will buy around 40 WZ-10's.:china:

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Why are you asking about attack helicopters in an engine thread? lol

The WZ-10 thread is here
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=2879

flyzies said:

Why are you asking about attack helicopters in an engine thread? lol

The WZ-10 thread is here
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=2879

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I thought this was a WZ-10 forum, my mistake.

well, a while back some rumours were released on Chinese bbs about good news on WS-10 series. It looks like the improved Taihang had achieved a certain milestone. Not sure what, just going back on a 2006 article from November of that year.

2006/11/28 本报讯（通讯员李晶雪）11月20日晚9时许，四川高空台某试验间指示灯闪烁，操作台显示屏上的参数一切正常，随着主试验员停车指令的下达，一航动力所 “太行”某型发动机高空台试车鉴定试验任务全部完成，历时75个昼夜的奋战完美收官。 在两个多月的时间里，一航动力所参试人员在一航涡轮院等兄弟单位的密切配合下，进行了10多次试验，圆满完成了试验大纲规定的发动机性能、功能检查及试飞前要求的各项试验的全部内容，高空台试验的完成为该型发动机的试飞奠定坚实的基础。 “太行”某型发动机高空台试验从9月7日正式开始，一航动力所全体参试人员以强烈的报国心和饱满的工作热情，工作在高空台试验现场，认真分析数据，及时排除了试验中的各种故障，持续工作15至18个小时，甚至连续几天几夜只睡几个小时；他们克服水土不服等生活困难，边吃药边坚持工作；大家团结互助，保持严细慎实的作风，承受着决战必胜的压力，促进了试验顺利进行。 此次高空台试验正逢百日会战的关键时期，一航动力所领导深入试验现场，与同志们一道分析问题，解决问题，并亲自参加试验，靠前慰问，靠前指挥，鼓舞了参试人员的干劲，有力保证了试验任务的顺利完成

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reports completion of high altitude testing, maybe a couple of more years before achieving certification? Anyhow, it looks like this improved Taihang is really pushing the envelope against the AL-31FM series threat. If we take the chart in the attached picture as the thrust level vs time. It seems that it reaches a steady thrust level of around 155 kN. Consider the following wet thrust:
FM1 - 13.5 tonne
FM2 - 14.2 tonne
FM3 - 15 tonne
FM4 - ?
And then 117S - 14.5 tonne.
155 kN = around 15.5 to 16 tonne.
I think in a few more month, we would know more. At this moment, it appears the improved WS-10A is doing a lot better than people think.

Any one seen this picture of the H-8, the new bomber China is supposedly to be working on. It says this plane uses 3 engines. They could use 3 WS-10A in this bad boy.

Looks like fan art to me. If China is actually working on something that looks like that, they won't let you post this.

From the source, this doesn't seem to be mere fan art. It's more of a real design concept that they are studying.

jackbh said:

Any one seen this picture of the H-8, the new bomber China is supposedly to be working on. It says this plane uses 3 engines. They could use 3 WS-10A in this bad boy.

[qimg]http://cache.orion.sina.com.cn/fansjczs_d/upload/217/91/1403588047/16984.jpg[/qimg]

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Looks very nice, but a bit lacking in the credentials department.

more on WS-10 series, FGH95 PM superalloy is currently used on WS-10A. Supposedly this is an article on the new generation of PM superalloy (which is FGH96).

Also, a rumour from Chinese forum is that 624 institute is trying to compete against WS-15 of 606 institute by developing I guess a replacement of WS-10 (not just a simple upgrade)