For future purpose can you please focus a little more on your spelling/grammar and making sure your sentence read correctly rather than just posting as much content as you can? I'm really pushing for higher quality posting on this forum and you are doing a pretty poor job of that.
Let me tell you my opinion
I do not agree with you, you whole argument has many holes
First Sukhoi`s text in English says
The implemantation of the license still going on and the delivery of spare parts to previously delivered aircraft is taking place.
Later on they say China and Russia are doing fine, no problems in the cooperation in aviation affairs.
Cooperation with China in the field of military aviation develops successfully. The implementation of the program of Su-type licensed aircraft production is going on, as well as the delivery of spare parts for previously delivered aircraft. The framework established on the basis of long-term cooperation provides for the transition in the near future to a new level of cooperation on major projects
This implies to me China can still build Su-27s, they fixed the problems and they are happy.
For the past few years, the Russians have been complaining to the international press and on their own newspapers about China copying off them. Are you going to pretend that didn't happen? If you are, I suggest you just google "China copy su-27" and see how many search results you get.
Even if Sukhoi has sorted the situation out with China now, that does not mean it was fine in 2007 to 2010 when this was clearly an issue.
You argumentation first has the lack of any official proof Russia only will deliver Al-31 to China to old aircraft.
Okay you promised you will find it.
Okay i won`t believe you unless you prove it.
Now argumentation holes.
a) you claim J-11B, J-15, J-16 are illegal and China still builds them with WS-10.
b) russia is angry so no Al-31 will be delivered to new aircraft.
First Sukhoi texts implies they are happy and the license is till going on.
I had a very short reply, you are making a lot of assumptions on that. We saw many J-11Bs parked outside of SAC, because WS-10 was not ready and they could not get AL-31. Why do you think that was the case?
Mig-29, you won't believe me even if I provide you the proof. What's the point of wasting an hour of my life to dig up an article that's posted by kanwa in Chinese that you can't even understand, you will just recycle the same links again?
To me it means Russia does not care any more about the new Su-27s build in china since China still buys replacements for previously delivered aircraft and in fact If China buys Al-31s and fit them to new Su-27s that does not contradict the license.
The original license called for new Al-31s to be fitted onto new Su-27s build in China, in fact the disagreement was because WS-10 went into new build airframes and China did not want new Al-31s
Russians were complaining about the first batch of J-11B that were all using AL-31s. Please go back to 2007 to 2010 and read how many articles were on this. It's not hard, use google. We know there was only 1 J-11B regiment in service at the time, that was the one in first division.
So your whole argumentation is ilogic, China stopped the license in 2004 because they said no new Al-31s.
That's completely false. China said no more kits deliveries, they actually continued producing J-11A for longer. We have pictures of this. But they said no more kits, because the original simply no longer fit the requirements of PLAAF. They wanted to do their own modifications and not the ones proposed by the Russians. WS-10A wasn't ready until 2010. Why would they stop the license if they have no engine for new aircraft. The first batch of J-11B was using AL-31F and that was in 2007. If you followed PLAAF pictures at all, you should know this. Please go to the flanker threads and go through the pictures.
Now this is what makes me feel you do not understand, the whole point.
If WS-10 is not reliable, then it makes more sense to continue the license with Al-31s and fit the WS-10 into J-10s, why?
J-10 is Chinese, so Russia can not ask China about not fitting WS-10s into J-10s or J-20s but it can about J-11s, J-15 and J-16s since they are Sukhois Flankers.
I do no understand because you can't make a legible point.
If Russia cut off supply of AL-31F in 2007 to 2010 for new J-11Bs, how can they use any engine other than WS-10?
So in My opinion unless you prove me with official documentation in the level of Sukhoi page or Saturn, maybe SAC or official Chinese sources, your theory is just an opinion
Foreign and Chinese military experts were quick to point out that the J-15, one of China's newest military aircraft, was powered by a pair of Russian Al-31 turbofans - they power almost all of China's frontline aircraft. Reports in the Russian media say Moscow has sold more than 1,000 engines from the A1-31 family to China with further, substantial orders in the pipeline
In fact in Russia there is optimism Al-31 will continue to be bought by China
well, I think my mistake replying so much, because you will probably take everything I'm trying to explain to you and write a 8000 words copy & paste of Random links and logic as response.
I've talked about sourcing when it comes to PLA news. If you don't want to believe me, then that's fine. Keep on going the way you are and let's just stop the conversation here. I really don't see anyone that can change your mind on anything.
