Chinese Economics Thread

[Blitzo]

A number of years ago, I was told that young single Chinese women in big cities are buying houses. The goal is to better attract future husbands. As you can see, they have a totally different mentality, which is fierce independence. They no longer see themselves as their husbands' partners. They see themselves as the dominating members of the society.

Yes, the previous article that BIB quoted about female children being "doted on" by parents was also interesting to me, given it goes on to say that expectations are often heaped onto them... from my own limited experience and interactions in real life, I think it would be more accurate to say there are strong demands on girls by their parents and are expected to succeed as much if not more so than their male counterparts.

 

[Brumby]

First of all, I'd like to see some data to the claim China spends same or more on internal security than its military (SIPRI estimated China spent about $216 billion on Defense in 2014). But, lacking that data, let's have a look at the US, just because information is relatively free and open:.

Just google. There are plenty of articles confirming it.

US National Guard: 350k Source=

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Federal Law Enforcement: 120k in 2008 Source=

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State, County, City Law Enforcement: 1.1 million in 2008 Source=

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My guess is the 1.5 million law enforcement personnel would cost hundreds of billions, what do you think?

I don't have a problem if the facts are that the US spends more on internal security than on the military.

So, what of it? Nations do that and worse in pursuance of their interests. For example, US might have committed air piracy when it forced Bolivia's Presidential plane to land in Vienna (

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). Not satisfied with breaking one international law, US committed another with an illegal invasion of Bolivian soil to search for Edward Snowden.

As you said might have.

I Chalk it off as great powers doing as then can for their own interests, and weak powers suffering as they must. All great powers do it, and if you have particular problems with China's actions, then I'd like to know the reason for your selective outrage.

Suppression of free press and kidnapping vs denial of sovereign airspace are not equivalent.

 

[Blackstone]

Suppression of free press and kidnapping vs denial of sovereign airspace are not equivalent.

Too cute by half. Let's be honest, you are not comfortable with the topic, and will not discuss it with any degree of intellectual honesty. So, let's move on then.

 

[Blackstone]

Just google. There are plenty of articles confirming it.

That's just the problem, I read articles in the Western press on China's internal security expenditures, but it's hard to pinpoint the actual source. If it's just stories floating in the lame stream media, then it's not reliable. Do you know of a report from a respected source on the topic?

 

[Brumby]

Too cute by half. Let's be honest, you are not comfortable with the topic, and will not discuss it with any degree of intellectual honesty. So, let's move on then.

No because this is seriously getting OT.

 

[plawolf]

So does the communist party just throw money at women until they have billions? Want to talk Europe how it's a classist society? Same with some "approved" Asian countries. So if it were the case, the only difference is biased prejudice. It's only wrong when the Chinese do it. The irony is China and the US are probably the only two countries where you can start from the bottom to get to the top. And let's not forget that in China the female rich aren't pigeon-holed into female-related businesses either.

Actually, unless you are a multi-millionaire, your chances of getting into high officer in the US are extremely poor.

Power and governance is a rich man's game in the US.

 

[vincent]

Suppression of free press and kidnapping vs denial of sovereign airspace are not equivalent.

Oh, like Yanks kidnaping Canadian Maher Arar and sent him to Syria for torture? He was there over a year

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[solarz]

If they have the same qualifications and are equally successful at their jobs, then yes.

But they're not. Remember that we are talking about average salary here. On average women will spend more time on maternity leave than men, therefore, again on average, women will incur more costs to the employer (in the form of training and overlapping roles) than men.

I agree. Regardless of the circumstance behind their achievements it is nevertheless significant in itself that they are able to seize the opportunities to make good as an outcome. It may be a case that CCP policy values loyalty above everything else including gender. Whilst Chinese are generally economically driven and are hardworking and industrious, what I believe is happening in China is that the economic opportunities are skewed and may not be similarly available to the broader population regardless of gender.

Ridiculous.

The real question is not why China has so many self-made female billionaires, the real question is why the rest of the world has so few.

The answer that question is what makes one appreciate the status of gender equality in China.

 

[Equation]

A number of years ago, I was told that young single Chinese women in big cities are buying houses. The goal is to better attract future husbands. As you can see, they have a totally different mentality, which is fierce independence. They no longer see themselves as their husbands' partners. They see themselves as the dominating members of the society.

Are they looking for an attractive husband with the same level career profession as they have or they willing to forgo that regardless of the man's income background?

 

[solarz]

Are they looking for an attractive husband with the same level career profession as they have or they willing to forgo that regardless of the man's income background?

IMO, it's more of an issue of hukou, in that they're looking for someone with a hukou in Beijing. Apparently, that nets you a bunch of benefits for your parents and your kids.