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broadsword

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Chinese housing prices have been falling for the past four months and inflation for 2015 is expected to be 1.8%. Together with lower commodity prices, I believe the govt will loosen the monetary policy more, so a growth rate of above 7% is still on the card. But come 2016, watch if Dow Jones crashes.
 

Equation

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Read this article from the LA Times

The Trans-Pacific Partnership won't deliver jobs or curb China's power


Counselor to the secretary of Commerce in the Reagan administration, I was involved in a number of trade negotiations, including the so-called MOSS (market-oriented sector-selective) talks. Some veteran negotiators waggishly renamed those negotiations — to paraphrase in family friendly terms — “more of the same old stuff.” And that's what President Obama called for in his State of the Union proposal for completion and adoption of the Trans-Pacific Partnership free-trade agreement, or TPP, for the Asia-Pacific region.

The president, unfortunately, doesn't know much about the history of U.S. trade deals, but his proposals are being touted by many who do and who should know better about this one.

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Rep. Charles Boustany Jr. (R-La.) and former U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick, for example, wrote in a
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that “workers who produce exports earn, on average, about 18% more” than the average manufacturing wage. They add that the TPP may open foreign markets for business services — such as finance, software and architecture — that employ more workers than manufacturing at 20% higher earnings. Finally, they quote the Peterson Institute for International Economics as estimating that new trade deals could increase the average American family's income by $3,000.

Of course, figures don't lie, but analysts often figure. Can all workers choose to work for manufacturing exporters? If exports are such good business, why has the U.S. manufacturing trade deficit soared over the last decade?

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As Robert Scott of the Economic Policy Institute wrote in July, “U.S. manufacturing has lost 5.5 million jobs since 1997, due in large part to the growth of U.S. goods trade deficits with China and other countries.” And those service industry wages don't look so high if the few thousand megamillionaires in financial services are factored out.

Further, the same Peterson Institute that estimates big family-income gains also estimates that the TPP would add only 0.13% to U.S. GDP by 2025, while the U.S. Department of Agriculture says that abolition of all TPP country tariffs and tariff rate quotas to zero would add nearly zero “percentage difference in real GDP.” Others, such as EPI, the Economic Strategy Institute and Public Citizen predict that a TPP deal would result in further U.S. job losses and reduced earnings for the vast majority of Americans.


Instead of forecasts, let's look at facts. Over the last 35 years, the U.S. has brought China into the World Trade Organization and concluded many free-trade agreements, including one with South Korea three years ago. In advance of each, U.S. leaders promised the deals would create high-paying jobs, reduce the trade deficit, increase GDP and raise living standards. But none of these came true. In fact, the U.S. non-oil trade deficit continued to grow, millions of jobs were offshored and mean household income has hardly risen since 2000. And economists overwhelmingly agree that rising U.S. income inequality is being driven in part by international trade.

Of course, those promoting the TPP know all this, which leads them to make a backup argument, namely that the deal would strengthen security ties between the U.S. and its Asian allies and thereby curb the increasing power and influence of China.

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For instance, a recent Foreign Policy article argued that the TPP would reinvigorate the economies of America's Asian allies and that China would subsequently be “dwarfed” by the economic power of the TPP countries harnessed together. It is ironic that those now calling for the TPP as a bulwark against Chinese power are precisely the same people who most vociferously promoted China's admission to the WTO, a step that greatly spurred the growth of China's economy and China's geopolitical power.

In any case, the ever-closer linking of the U.S. economy to those of the TPP countries over the last 35 years has not prevented the rise of Chinese power, nor has it deterred U.S. trade partners and allies from developing ever closer ties with China. Further, the GDP of the combined TPP countries already dwarfs that of China. But this means nothing. The TPP is not going to bring together nations such as Mexico, Peru, Chile, New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Malaysia and Brunei to gang up against China. That is just not going to happen.

Thus the TPP fails on both economic and political grounds. It is no more than a late lament for the dying age of free-trade agreements.

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China had 1.286 billion mobile phone users last month

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The number of mobile phone users in China at the end of last month was 1.286 billion, according to stats published by China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT). That means 94.5% of the country's population used a mobile phone at the end of last year, and swamped the number of landline users. Only 18.3% of the population in China used a landline last month. That works out to a total of 249.43 million people.

The total number of mobile phone users in China is growing at a rate of .4% each month, or 4.64% annually. 485.26 million, or 37.73%, were connected to a 3G signal as the year came to an end. 875.22 million Chinese, or 68.05% of the population, used their mobile device to surf the web last month. In December, mobile internet use resulted in the consumption of 240,958 TB (terabyte). Mobile phone users in China last month sent 65.15 billion texts, or an average of 1.64 texts per phone number each day.

China Mobile is the world's largest carrier and now has 90 million subscribers connected to 4G LTE service after adding a record 19 million 4G subscribers last month. China Unicom added 1.15 million 3G and 4G users in December, while China Telecom added 2 million such subscribers during the month.

As of last February, China Mobile served 776 million total subscribers, China Unicom had 285.7 million customers and China Telecom counted 185 million subscribers.

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Read this article from the LA Times

The Trans-Pacific Partnership won't deliver jobs or curb China's power




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I am more tempted to believe the TPP was established to curb China's influence, but American job creation was only a backup reason. China's rise as a manufacturer and exporter echoes the rise of Japan, which caused job losses in the US. But that is how the cookie crumbles and China should be have struck a familiar tune in policy makers.

Whether it was for politics or economic, the Obama administration simply is unable to make the transition to the new normal. So they have to pivot in an antagonistic way.
 

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China had 1.286 billion mobile phone users last month

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The number of mobile phone users in China at the end of last month was 1.286 billion, according to stats published by China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT). That means 94.5% of the country's population used a mobile phone at the end of last year, and swamped the number of landline users. Only 18.3% of the population in China used a landline last month. That works out to a total of 249.43 million people.

The total number of mobile phone users in China is growing at a rate of .4% each month, or 4.64% annually. 485.26 million, or 37.73%, were connected to a 3G signal as the year came to an end. 875.22 million Chinese, or 68.05% of the population, used their mobile device to surf the web last month. In December, mobile internet use resulted in the consumption of 240,958 TB (terabyte). Mobile phone users in China last month sent 65.15 billion texts, or an average of 1.64 texts per phone number each day.

China Mobile is the world's largest carrier and now has 90 million subscribers connected to 4G LTE service after adding a record 19 million 4G subscribers last month. China Unicom added 1.15 million 3G and 4G users in December, while China Telecom added 2 million such subscribers during the month.

As of last February, China Mobile served 776 million total subscribers, China Unicom had 285.7 million customers and China Telecom counted 185 million subscribers.

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1.286 billion probably refers to number of individual accounts rather than number of users.

Interestingly that the number of landline users is only 249.43 million. I wonder if this is a good indication of baseline urbanised population in China. Most likely migrant workers would have cellular subscription rather than setting up a landline.

If cellular service can be offered at comparable rate to landline service I wonder if it will simply replace landline services and whether that would be a good thing? In other words cities in China could go the way of South Korea's completely wireless city, and not even intentionally but simply as a result of overall trend?
 

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1.286 billion probably refers to number of individual accounts rather than number of users.

Interestingly that the number of landline users is only 249.43 million. I wonder if this is a good indication of baseline urbanised population in China. Most likely migrant workers would have cellular subscription rather than setting up a landline.

If cellular service can be offered at comparable rate to landline service I wonder if it will simply replace landline services and whether that would be a good thing? In other words cities in China could go the way of South Korea's completely wireless city, and not even intentionally but simply as a result of overall trend?

Land lines are getting more costly here in the states than cellular services. LOL...my parents are still so old fashion that they are still using the land lines!:p
 

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Remember when they use to charge that China prevented foreign corporations from taking their profits out of China? Apple just scored the largest quarterly earnings in history... and that's because of Apple selling more iPhones in China than the US now. I expect if this passes, American corporations will have their headquarters moved to another country since foreign sales account for a lot of earnings these days.
 

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The International Monetary Fund is meant to be the firefighter of the world economy. Recently, though, it is China that has responded to the ringing of alarms.

First, it lent Argentina cash to replenish its dwindling foreign-exchange reserves. Next, with the rouble crashing, China offered credit to Russia.

Then Venezuela begged for funds to stave off a default. Strategic interests dictate where China points its financial hose: these countries supply it with oil and food. But if a government anywhere goes bust, it now has an alternative to the IMF.

In the past six months China has also invaded the development patch of the other great Bretton Woods institution, the World Bank. First, China--along with Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa--established the New Development Bank.

Then it unveiled the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. Finally it launched the Silk Road Fund, backed by yet another development bank. None has started operating, but China has pledged more than $140 billion to these new institutions.

China's clout should not be exaggerated. The yuan is not yet fully convertible and will not be for several years, which limits its influence. But the country's leaders are clearly marshalling the cash and the strategy to become a banker to the world. This is at once welcome and worrying.

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Kim Kyung-Hoon/ReutersChina's Finance Minister Lou Jiwei (L) talks with International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Christine Lagarde during the China Development Forum in Beijing March 23, 2014.

It is welcome because it is in everyone's interest to have China's vast savings, stashed away for too long in low-yielding American government bonds, diverted to more useful causes. For poor countries that need better roads and ports, Chinese capital could be a godsend.

The worries relate to how China may wield its power. The World Bank and the IMF have been criticised for attaching too many conditions to loans. China, by contrast, is undemanding, worryingly so. The $50 billion that Chinese banks have lent to Venezuela since 2007 bought that country's leaders time to wreck the economy, as well as allowing them to continue to thumb their noses at America.

The fear is that, as international use of the yuan grows, China will start to provide pariah states with a means to evade Western financial sanctions, thus subverting the diplomatic order as well as the financial one.

In fact the evidence suggests China's goals are less sinister. It is not seeking to displace established multilateral institutions, but to gain the power befitting an economy of its size. Moreover, its activism is partly a response to America's reprehensible failure to ratify reforms to give big emerging markets greater say at the World Bank and the IMF (see page 69).

America has lobbied allies to steer clear of China's new infrastructure bank. It would be more sensible for the Obama administration to try to integrate China into the existing institutions than to try to thwart its ambitions altogether.

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Andy Wong/Pool/ReutersVenezuela's President Nicolas Maduro (front R) walks with China's President Xi Jinping during a welcome ceremony at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, January 7, 2015.



The great gall of China

As for its no-strings-attached policy, the country to which China's reckless lending poses the greatest danger is China itself. It has cultivated an image as a champion of the developing world. Financial distress in countries that receive its largesse undermines that.

It is also a waste of national treasure. The original point of getting into development finance was to make better use of its currency reserves, not to fritter them away in corrupt nations. The saving grace for China is that its errors are already evident. It has time to fix things before truly becoming a banker to the world. Hewing closer to the model of the Bretton Woods institutions is the right place to start.



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