Chinese Economics Thread

abenomics12345

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I found some definitive proof that China is lying about its GDP PPP. And it's really funny how much lower they made it look so the PPP per capita is around the same as the global average.

China claims that the Price level Index for China is higher than Singapore and Taiwan. Don't laugh
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China's "Actual" expenditure is lower than countries like Sri Lanka, Thailand and Mongolia and that "real" food expenditure is lower than India's. LMAO
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Even by underestimating Chinese GDP PPP so much, The National Bureau of Statistics of China still says that PPP significantly enlarges the economy and tries to discredit it lol. They are taking "hide your strength bide your time" so seriously that they are larping as a poor "developing" country lmao.

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If you adjust for the biases, China's real economy would be basically the same as all the Advanced countries combined. Still with the per capita growth rate of India's. it really feels like that China is the only big country and other countries are small countries.

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@abenomics12345 Thoughts?

There are a lot of free things in China that doesn’t get captured in GDP measurements.
As an example at a micro level, lots of restaurants in China do not charge for rice - it’s “produced” but without charging for it the restaurant owner, all else equal, has less revenues to pay higher wages for employees or improve services (innovate newer dishes for example).

My point has always been that GDP is not fake; the real issue is converting activity into income that is the challenge and opportunity for Chinese economy.
 

GiantPanda

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The thing is China doesn't exclude services in its GDP calculations, in fact, the tertiary sector makes up 60% of China's GDP. They literally just straight up lied to the world bank about how much things cost in China lmao.

it's so funny how this tricked everyone in the west except for some China hawks who said Chinese military spending is actually 800 billion a year lol.

It was always be obvious. You cannot use up this kind of electricity unless the Chinese economy is massively bigger and growing massively faster:


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You cannot outlap the rest of the world by this much unless you have a massively bigger economy. There would have been no way to afford to afford it unless you do.
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PiSigma

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It was always be obvious. You cannot use up this kind of electricity unless the Chinese economy is massively bigger and growing massively faster:


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You cannot outlap the rest of the world by this much unless you have a massively bigger economy. There would have been no way to afford to afford it unless you do.
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How did us get 700 km? They include anything on paper over 100 km/h?
 

Wrought

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Wow that was fast. Within minutes. I suppose we'll see if the talks later this week go anywhere.

China said it would implement a 15% tariff on coal and liquefied natural gas products as well as a 10% tariff on crude oil, agricultural machinery and large-engine cars imported from the U.S. The tariffs would take effect next Monday.


In addition to the tariffs, China announced export controls on several elements critical to the production of modern high-tech products. They include tungsten, tellurium, bismuth, molybdenum and indium, many of which are designated
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by the U.S. Geological Survey, meaning they are essential to U.S. economic or national security that have supply chains vulnerable to disruption.

In addition, China’s State Administration for Market Regulation said Tuesday it is investigating Google on suspicion of violating antitrust laws. The announcement did not mention the tariffs but came just minutes after Trump’s 10% tariffs on China were to take effect.

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SanWenYu

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Google works/has business in China?
Android, Ad, Cloud, "Seed Accelerator".

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1.安卓Android操作系统:安卓系统的开源部分(AOSP)仍是中国手机厂商(如小米、OPPO、vivo等)的基础。

2.Google Ad广告服务:为中国大陆企业提供向全球用户投放的关键词广告服务,使大陆企业可以向全球用户投放有针对性的广告,包括关键词广告、视频广告、展示广告以及移动广告等。

3.创业加速器:针对出海企业的创业支持服务。

4.云计算:主要服务中国出海企业,如TikTok、SHEIN等。其中,2022年TikTok在谷歌云上的支出超过10亿美元,占其中国区营收的较大份额。



潜在垄断行为

1.Android操作系统市场垄断优势:谷歌Android操作系统在全球及中国市场的高份额,可能滥用市场支配地位。

2.收购中国XR公司蚁视科技的反垄断审查:可能涉及未进行无条件批准经营者集中公示的问题。

3.谷歌搜索和Chrome浏览器在全球市场的高份额,可能构成不正当竞争。
 

coolgod

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Android, Ad, Cloud, "Seed Accelerator".

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1.安卓Android操作系统:安卓系统的开源部分(AOSP)仍是中国手机厂商(如小米、OPPO、vivo等)的基础。

2.Google Ad广告服务:为中国大陆企业提供向全球用户投放的关键词广告服务,使大陆企业可以向全球用户投放有针对性的广告,包括关键词广告、视频广告、展示广告以及移动广告等。

3.创业加速器:针对出海企业的创业支持服务。

4.云计算:主要服务中国出海企业,如TikTok、SHEIN等。其中,2022年TikTok在谷歌云上的支出超过10亿美元,占其中国区营收的较大份额。



潜在垄断行为

1.Android操作系统市场垄断优势:谷歌Android操作系统在全球及中国市场的高份额,可能滥用市场支配地位。

2.收购中国XR公司蚁视科技的反垄断审查:可能涉及未进行无条件批准经营者集中公示的问题。

3.谷歌搜索和Chrome浏览器在全球市场的高份额,可能构成不正当竞争。
Google earning call today, I wonder if the timing is intentional ;)

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