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Xiongmao

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Money printer is just a meme. US prints about an appropriate amount of money relative to their status as the 2nd largest economy and 2nd largest producer of many goods.

There is a mass hysteria among some Chinese that America is somehow cheating us with money printing. If they were, Americans would see wage growth beating inflation.

The fact is they still make a lot of goods, it's just inferior quality and quantity, but suffices to sell to captive audiences.
The only reason that chart started heading up after 1990 is they have been fiddling the inflation numbers, that is they have been understating the denominator in the calculations of real wages. The real trend line probably is a straight unbroken descent.
 

Serb

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Western msm still whining about China and deflation. What could it mean?


Wait until they still realize the actual definition of deflation first.

Then the difference between deflation and disinflation, and their potential causes, etc.

Or that the thing that is causing relatively lower price increases in China could very well be innovation, competition, and thriving industrial capitalism, something that they forgot decades ago.

Just like they forgot that successful capitalism means efficiency, and battle for consumers, through cost and value, not that crony feudal cheating merging shithole they created.

Equality as opposed to inequality, efficient working market as opposed to speculative bubbles, and cost-effectiveness compared to price-gauging monopolies they only know of.

Healthy supply-side dynamics don't mean some demand-side recession, but the growing demand and growing wide superiority of the Chinese economy, business management, and manufacturing technology.

This means nothing, just another day of US censorship/control of media.

Out of all the possible definitions in existence, none of them describe the current situation in China remotely as such.

Per Anglo's own dictionary:
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And here I thought Westoids at least had some verbal intelligence left.


Money printer is just a meme. US prints about an appropriate amount of money relative to their status as the 2nd largest economy and 2nd largest producer of many goods.

There is a mass hysteria among some Chinese that America is somehow cheating us with money printing. If they were, Americans would see wage growth beating inflation.

The fact is they still make a lot of goods, it's just inferior quality and quantity, but suffices to sell to captive audiences.


The thing is that the money printer doesn't cheat Chinese, but cheats American ordinary people.

The one who benefits from the printer is the asset-holding oligarch, whereas others only get inflation, that's why real wages decay.

The soon-to-be trillionaire Elon Musk certainly feels like he is cheating, and this is not just an empty conspiracy theory to him.









Literally, every wording in this article is braindead. 10 idiotic meanings in the first sentence, stopped reading after that,


More than 10 years into the Xi Jinping era, it has become clear that much of China’s growth under his watch was driven by unsustainable borrowing, real estate speculation and investments in factories and infrastructure the country didn’t really need.


Wtf, how can a country, especially in development, that is not yet fully urbanized, NOT need factories and infrastructure?
 

SanWenYu

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There is a mass hysteria among some Chinese that America is somehow cheating us with money printing. If they were, Americans would see wage growth beating inflation.
Because the large portion of the excessively printed dollars did not end up in hands of the poor.

Some of these dollars are in bank accounts of the rich, some have become FDI in other countries and will come back eventually to the bank accounts of the rich still, the rest are price paid for imports from other countries.
 

SanWenYu

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Huawei's Yu Chengdong teased that his company will release major new products in 2025 and those products will be "something that no one has thought of". He went on saying that in the future Huawei will create "products that no one even dare to imagine".

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12月25日消息,华为常务董事、终端BG董事长、智能汽车解决方案BU董事长余承东发布视频称,2024年华为上市了别人想得到但做不出来的产品,2025年会有大家想不到的产品,未来还有大家不敢想的产品。

余承东表示,2023年秋天,随着先锋计划,在历经连续5年制裁之后,华为重返了智能手机的赛道。2024年是华为重返赛道的第一年,实现了快速地增长,也开启了华为终端未来十年的新征程。“我们一直说,我们要敢于做别人想得到但做不出来的产品,这款产品上市了,这就是全球首款商用三折叠屏手机,改写了手机行业的历史。还有我们的原生鸿蒙操作系统也正式发布,在迅速完善成熟商用中。史上最强大的Mate 70系列,盎然向新。”

余承东还预告,2025年还会有大家想不到的产品,未来还有大家不敢想的产品,敬请期待。此外,他还谈及为何要打造百万豪车这个问题,他称“过去,能够大规模销售的百万级豪华汽车都是西方发达国家的高端品牌,智能化给了我们弯道超车的机会”。

余承东表示,过去拼豪华车,拼的是发动机、波箱、座舱的豪华设计、材质用料,这些都能具备,我们甚至用的更好的料,然后还有品牌、设计,今天用业界顶级的设计大师一起设计、用料最好,关键我们的智能化方面获得大的(进步),但我想之后打造的车将会是中国大规模销量、售价超过一百万的、能够海量规模销售的最好的车。
 
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