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ABC78

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China downgrades US. Conan bit

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kroko

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China and russia agree on the Schedule of the building of a refinery in Tianjin.

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What i find funny is a phrase that russian PM says.

In the ria-novosti article, medvedev says: “These technologies are ours, to a great extent. And this is good. It means that they will work and we will work,”

In the xinhua article, medvedev only says: "It means that they will work on it and we will also do this,". Xinhua censored the rest. The phrase doesnt make sense in this way. Only reading the original (ria-novosti) article, can one understand it.


By the way, if this is true, why will china use russian oil refinery tech? because the russians demanded it?
 

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China downgrades US. Conan bit

[video=youtube;sWsy6eKtw0E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWsy6eKtw0E&feature=c4-overview&list=UUi7GJNg51C3jgmYTUwqoUXA[/video]

That guy is lucky that his head didn't hit the tree after the truck struck him, otherwise he could've been paralyzed.
 

broadsword

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By the way, if this is true, why will china use russian oil refinery tech? because the russians demanded it?

It's a joint venture, with CNPC holding a 49 percent stake while Rosneft holds the remaining 51 percent. That's all she wrote. Russia will be the sole supplier of crude oil.
 

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If there’s one thing Apple Inc.AAPL +0.74% can count on in China, it’s a pop in sales after it releases a new batch of iPhones.

Last year, the company sold 2 million units of its iPhone 5 in China in the first weekend of its release. A similar jump is likely behind the 6% revenue growth in Greater China for Apple’s fiscal fourth quarter ended Sept. 28. The Cupertino company’s revenue for Greater China, which includes Hong Kong and Taiwan, rose to $5.7 billion in the period from $5.4 billion a year earlier.

The question for Apple in China is whether the 6% growth is good enough. The quarterly figures include roughly the first week of sales for the new iPhone 5S and 5C in China, so the big test will be whether those sales will be sustained. The latest figures compare to last year’s quarter when Apple had yet to release its newest phone. This year marked the first time that Apple released its new iPhones in the mainland on the same day as other major markets like the U.S. and Japan.

During Apple’s earnings call, Chief Executive Tim Cook said the figures represented a “pretty good quarter.” Indeed, any growth in China is good. An unending stream of low-cost handsets from ascendant local handset makers is making the world’s largest smartphone market one of the world’s most competitive.

But it’s an open question whether Apple’s new round of iPhones, which rank easily among the most expensive in China, can buck the trend of customers here increasingly paying less for smartphones that pack in the highest specs. The sales are going not just to Apple’s Android rivals like Samsung Electronics Co.005930.SE +0.07% and HTC Corp.2498.TW -2.02%, but also local brands like Lenovo Group Ltd.0992.HK -0.87%, Huawei Technologies Co. and Beijing Xiaomi Technology Co.

Also at issue is what long-term impact a continuing government campaign against lavish spending by Chinese officials and a spate of criticism by Chinese state media of Apple’s warranty policies will have on the company’s sales here.

In China, electronics sales tend to spike ahead of the holiday period, though that’s because of Chinese New Year, which this year falls at the end of January, as opposed to Christmas. That means it could be a nervous holiday season for Apple in China.

Still there’s at least one factor that will help keep Mr. Cook keep cheery as Chinese New Year approaches. Apple is likely to soon begin selling the iPhone in China through the country’s largest mobile carrier, China Mobile. That gives Apple new access to China Mobile’s 700 million customers and also the support of the world’s largest telecom carrier, which is likely to push out subsidies to help spur sales of the phone once it goes on sale.

Under that light, the most important remark made by Mr. Cook about Apple came just after he called the quarter a good one, when he said, “We want to do better [in China].”

If the company doesn’t in the next three months, it might mean it needs to change tack. After all, it’s worth figuring out why the company can generate $13.9 billion in revenue from the world’s second-largest smartphone market, the U.S., but only $5.7 billion in its largest.

– Paul Mozur. Follow him on Twitter @paulmozur

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Chinese carmakers narrow quality gap with global brands

By Samuel Shen and Norihiko Shirouzu

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China's state-owned GAC Motor scored above average in a closely watched quality survey, as home-grown brands narrowed the gap with the foreign marques that dominate the world's biggest car market.

GAC Motor, which sells cars under its own brand Trumpchi, had 97 problems per 100 newly sold vehicles in a survey published on Thursday by market-research firm JD Power & Associates.

That was better than the average 119 problems and beat global names such as General Motors Co's (GM) Buick and Chevrolet, Ford (NYS:F), Nissan <7201.T> and Honda <7276.T>.

A lower score indicates higher quality, with a score over 100 showing multiple problems per vehicle.

Three other Chinese brands -- Venucia, Roewe and Luxgen, also performed better than the industry average, compared with none last year when JD Power started ranking domestic brands in the survey.

Venucia is a brand developed by a Chinese venture of Japan's Nissan Motor Co for the local market, while Roewe is a brand SAIC Motor Corp <600104.SS> started with technologies the state-owned Chinese carmaker purchased from Britain's Rover.

"Chinese domestic brands achieve tremendous improvement in vehicle quality in 2013," Mei Songlin, J.D Power's China vice president said in a statement.

Chinese automakers including SAIC Motor Corp, GAC Motor and FAW Car Co Ltd <000800.SZ> have stepped up efforts to develop their own brands using technologies and skills they have learned or bought from foreign companies, which can only operate in China through joint ventures.

But despite these efforts, foreign brands still grabbed the top spots in the survey - Toyota's <7203.T> Lexus and Daimler's (DAI.DE) Mercedes-Benz (DAI.DE) tied for the highest quality, with 52 problems per 100 cars, followed by Subaru, made by Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd <7270.T>, Volkswagen (VOW3.DE) and BMW (BMW.DE).

The survey, which was initiated 14 years ago, monitors how cars perform in the first two to six months of ownership by asking randomly selected buyers.

It measures the number of problems, such as design-related issues, defects and malfunctions that buyers identify, per 100 vehicles.

(Editing by Erica Billingham)
 

AssassinsMace

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Insight: Chinese investors sour on Brazil, and projects melt away

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By Brian Winter and Caroline Stauffer 3 hours ago

By Brian Winter and Caroline Stauffer

SAO PAULO (Reuters) - For Chinese investors, Brazil is no longer the promised land.

After making a big push into the South American giant in search of raw materials such as iron ore, as well as a promising market for their consumer goods, Chinese executives have grown frustrated with stagnant economic growth, heavy costs and what they see as a political and popular backlash against their presence.

As a result, Chinese investment is falling, and as much as two-thirds of the roughly $70 billion in projects announced since 2007 is either on hold or has been canceled, according to recent studies and interviews with Chinese and Brazilian officials.

The unexpected decline, which investors and analysts say has little hope of reversing itself anytime soon, will deprive Brazil's struggling economy of what once seemed like a sure-fire source of growth for years to come.

"The ardor for investment in Brazil is fading. Operating in Brazil is a huge challenge," said Zhang Dongxiang, chief executive of the Brazilian unit of Bank of China Ltd, one of China's four largest state-owned commercial banks.

In a rare interview in his Sao Paulo office that included some of the sharpest criticism of Brazil by any Chinese business leader to date, Zhang complained of growing hostility from the Brazilian public as well as "protectionist" policies passed by President Dilma Rousseff's left-leaning government.

"Public opinion sometimes seems to be against foreign investment ... as if it makes local industry less competitive," he said. "There are some antiquated ideas."

While some Chinese companies are succeeding in Brazil, he said, "many are having doubts."

BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS, SMALLER RESULTS

The shrinking investment flows between two of the world's biggest emerging markets raises questions about the strength of the so-called "south-south" capital movement, and comes as China undergoes a broad shift away from investment-focused policies and toward a more consumer-based economy.

To be sure, Chinese investment in Brazil remains well above what it was last decade. Companies such as CNOOC Ltd and China National Petroleum Corp, which last week bought rights to drill for oil in Brazil's huge Libra offshore area, continue to see opportunities in Brazil.

Others with an eye on expansion include China Construction Bank Corp, which reached an agreement this week to buy 72 percent of Brazil's mid-sized lender Banco Industrial e Comercial SA for 1.62 billion reais ($726 million).

Also, China remains Brazil's largest trading partner, thanks to demand for its commodities, and exports have been steady.

But the euphoria of three or four years ago, when politicians hoped Chinese investment would fundamentally reshape Brazil's trade flows and generate billions of dollars' worth of badly needed new infrastructure, has clearly faded.

And while investors from all over the world have become less bullish on Brazil in recent years, evidence suggests the rise and fall in Chinese interest has been particularly abrupt.

The outcome is especially disappointing for Brazil's farming sector, which until recently saw China as its most likely savior for a dilapidated network of roads, railways and ports that make it very challenging to export crops.

"I don't know of a single Chinese infrastructure project that has gotten off the drawing board," said Edeon Vaz, who monitors logistics for Aprosoja, the country's largest cooperative of soybean growers.

HARDLY AN ASIAN TIGER

The recent Chinese experience in Brazil seems to be one of high expectations, followed by second thoughts.

After years of sending trade missions to Brazil but mostly keeping their wallets closed, Chinese companies abruptly announced a flurry of billion-dollar bets in 2010. That was the year Brazil's economy grew a torrid 7.5 percent, and seemed to have entered a new era of Asian tiger-style growth.

The investments went beyond the extraction of commodities, traditionally China's focus in Latin America.

Companies such as automaker Anhui Jianghuai Automobile Co, otherwise known as JAC Motors, and telecoms supplier Huawei Technologies Co Ltd announced big investments focused on selling to Brazil's rapidly growing middle class.

Most analysts agree that the sudden spurt, which was led by state-owned companies, was part of a strategic decision by Beijing to diversify its consumer markets abroad following the 2008-09 financial crisis and the ensuing stagnation in the United States and much of Europe.

Since then, though, little has gone right.

Brazil's economy cooled sharply, growing just 0.9 percent last year, and its consumers are burdened with debt. Meanwhile, the government has taken several steps that have made many Chinese investors feel unwelcome.

Some measures, such as a tax increase on foreign-made cars in 2011 that led JAC Motors to threaten to suspend construction of a new factory in Brazil, were part of a broad protectionist drive that targeted all countries equally.

But others, including a 2010 law that restricted land purchases by foreigners, were the specific result of worries that the Chinese were snapping up too many of Brazil's natural resources, legislators said at the time.

In private, Brazilian government officials express concerns that China is primarily interested in securing raw materials in a way that barely benefits Brazilians, while also flooding the country with low-cost manufactured goods.

Meanwhile, trade data shows that just three commodities - iron ore, oil and soy - and their derivatives - still account for 80 percent of Brazil's exports to China.

That has angered officials in Rousseff's government who had hoped that Brazilian manufacturers like aircraft maker Embraer SA would have made greater inroads by now. Chinese officials have countered that Brazilian industry needs to become more competitive to sell in China.

Derek Scissors, an expert on Chinese outward investment at the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington think tank, said the sudden spurt in investment, followed by a backlash and then a withdrawal, was "absolutely classic Chinese behavior" that also occurred in sub-Saharan Africa in recent years.

"What happens," Scissors said, "is you start getting people saying 'Wait a minute, we are running a huge trade deficit with China. They are investing $20 billion and grabbing up all our resources. Are we a colony?'"

XENOPHOBIA

It's not just the government that has lashed out in Brazil.

Unions and industry groups regularly target China. At an international textiles fair in Sao Paulo last week, hundreds of protesters gathered to denounce what they called unfair Chinese trade practices.

Hundreds also demonstrated against foreign involvement in last week's Libra oil sale, which saw European and Chinese companies successfully bid for the right to drill in Brazil's biggest-ever oil field. The protests prompted Rousseff to warn against "xenophobia" that could scare away foreign capital.

Chinese companies have noticed. For various reasons, many investments announced to huge fanfare in recent years now seem to be up in the air.

Reuters followed up on several of those projects, including a $5 billion railroad line in western Brazil that Chinese companies declared interest in building in 2011. The line has not yet secured financing from Chinese development banks and may be taken up by South Korean or European investors, said Francisco Vuolo, logistics secretary for Mato Grosso state.

The Chongqing Grain Group Corp's plan to build a $2 billion soy processing complex in Bahia state, announced in March 2011, has so far yielded just 15 percent of the planned investment, officials there say.

"The Chinese delay a lot in doing things," said Josalto Alves, a spokesman for Bahia's agriculture department. "They're very set on negotiating." Attempts to reach Chongqing executives were unsuccessful.

Huawei, the telecoms supplier, recently moved its regional headquarters from Brazil to Argentina. A Huawei spokesman said the move occurred because Brazil's market is "growing mature."

All told, of the Chinese investments announced between 2007 and mid-2012, only a third of them as measured by value were finished or in the process of being implemented, according to a study published in June by the China-Brazil Business Council, a Rio de Janeiro-based group.

The remainder - worth some $44 billion - were "still under negotiation or being evaluated," the CBBC said.

SALAD DAYS MAY BE OVER

Other countries have not turned on Brazil in the same fashion. Despite the economic struggles, foreign direct investment has remained relatively steady since 2010, with strong flows from the United States, Japan and others.

Scissors said Brazil remains a relatively attractive market for the Chinese. But, he said, Beijing seems to have shifted its priorities once again - focusing its investments on the United States and Canada, in particular, since late 2011.

"You aren't going to have another rush (in Brazil) for another few years at least," he said.

That jibes with the view of Zhang, the CEO of Bank of China in Brazil.

He said his bank, whose clients include Chinese companies operating here as well as big Brazilian concerns such as Petroleo Brasileiro SA, seeks to increase its capital by some $100 million in coming months. He called that a "good stimulus" for future growth in Brazil.

Yet, when asked if investment would recover in the next five years, Zhang was guarded.

"It depends on policies from the government," he said, tapping his desk for emphasis. "Brazil is at a crossroads. Will it grow, or will it cool down?"

(Editing by Todd Benson, Kieran Murray and Ken Wills)

I love the contradiction in the reporting. It says China has a pattern of getting up and leaving with no explanation except for when opportunities run dry yet points to people getting sour with the Chinese. Maybe they leave because of the negative Chinese environment as the article points out. Isn't that what they want? Oh but the Chinese are suppose to hang around even though they note the people don't like the Chinese. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. That's what's called spin. The fact is this is more propaganda. I'm sure there's a negative environment against the Chinese in Brazil... because of propaganda domestic and especially foreign. President Dilma Rousseff listened to the West on criticizing China. Their economy started slowing after that. China's economy is still humming along. Someone must've told Rousseff Brazil had leverage on China. You can tell Rousseff's favor over the Snowden scandal. She wanted Brazil's internet to connect directly with Europe and not by the way of the US? Like the Europeans aren't spying on Brazil?
 
Jilin and Heilongjiang Province now have more direct access to sea via Port of Rason, Korea

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Russia, China go head-to-head with development of North Korean port
September 24, 2013
By DAISUKE NISHIMURA/ Correspondent

RASON, North Korea--Competition between Russia and China is heating up as the two countries independently work to develop neighboring sections of a North Korean port.

A joint venture between Russia and North Korea celebrated the completion of repair work to a 54-kilometer railway line linking the Russian coastal district of Khasan with Rajin port in North Korea’s northeastern special economic zone of Rason on Sept. 22.

The joint venture has acquired the rights to use the rail line and the No. 3 wharf of Rajin port, one of its three quays, for 49 years from the North Korean government.

According to sources, 2.2 billion rubles (6.6 billion yen, or $66 million) have been invested to develop the 147,000-square-meter area in and around the No. 3 wharf.

Work on the site started last October, the sources said. The quay has been repaved with concrete, and fuel tanks as well as rails for traveling cranes to carry coal have been installed. The depth of water near the wharf has also been deepened from the previous 9 meters to 12 meters, so that large ships can access it.

Scheduled to be completed by the end of the year, the No. 3 quay will be able to handle 4 million tons of cargo a year.

Moscow regards the development of Rajin port and the Russia-North Korea rail line, which directly leads to the Trans-Siberian Railway, as vital to its efforts to establish a commercial artery between Asia and Europe.

Meanwhile, only a few hundred meters from the site of Russia’s development work, a Chinese company based in Jilin province is exploiting the port’s No. 1 wharf, having acquired use rights for 10 years. The Chinese firm has already finished installing warehouses and other facilities to unload coal from vessels.

A 50-km road linking the province’s city of Hunchun with Rajin port has already been constructed by the Chinese government, which started transporting coal via the port to southern China two years ago, according to sources. Beijing has also told Pyongyang that it hopes to construct additional wharfs at Rajin port, sources added.

If China was not allowed to use the North Korean port, it would have to deliver items by land from the northeastern provinces of Jilin and Heilongjiang to Dalian port, nearly 1,000 km south of the provinces. Therefore, China’s government is currently working to make North Korea’s ports, including Rajin, bases for exporting and importing goods under the slogan of “leasing ports, going out to sea.”

As Beijing and Pyongyang enhance their bilateral ties, Moscow is apparently seeking to reestablish diplomatic ties and regain its influence in North Korea, which has weakened since the collapse of the Soviet Union, by developing Rajin port jointly with the reclusive state.

Analysts have also pointed out the possibility that China may exploit the North Korean port as a military base in the future.
 
Progress in starting Rail Cargo Service to Europe

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Flat rate for China to Europe container traffic
07 Nov 2013

On November 7 a timetable for the establishment of jointly-owned intermodal freight operator United Transport & Logistics Co was agreed in Astana by President of Russian Railways Vladimir Yakunin, First Deputy Head of Belarusian Railways Vladimir Mikhailyuk and President of Kazakh national railway KTZ Askar Mamin.

UTLC is expected to begin operations in the first quarter of 2014. Its business plan expects traffic to exceed 4 million TEU in 2020.

In response to China's Chongqing province's expressing interest in the immediate use of rail transport to link China with Europe via Kazakhstan, Russia and Belarus, the railways agreed in principle to offer a single flat rate per kilometre for transit container traffic
 
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