Chinese Economics Thread

Eventine

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I dont think is possible to have both, you have to decide "big or educated".
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What China can do to maintain a steady population is no following the West in their race to bottom with central banks hyperinflating asset prices that make everyone poorer. Cheap cheap cheap. Cheap housing, cheap education, cheap food, cheap consumer goods, cheap daycare relative to salaries.
Fertility of 1.8 is actually amazing at that level of education. Chinese women aren’t much more educated than Americans yet their fertility is much lower. I have also observed this - American women seem to prefer bigger families despite being liberal / feminist.
 

BrokeGambler

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I am very coherent and playing with words wont' change the fact that if foreign investors are out and china owns foreign debt they are in a bad situation regardless if they rely on these funds. What I mean is forcing foreign investments out while keeping foreign debt is the stupidest think they can do and of course they are not doing this on purpose. But it's just funny to read all possible explanation and theories for that without the most obvious one. Which is simply that Chinese financial conditions are deteriorating by the day, exports 2.3% increase year over year which was a lock down year with -10% decrease. And December exports -7% usd, imports flat, consumer prices steady decreasing. Everyone can see data is more or so stagnant even in comparison with previous worst lock down year. But still no one sees the problem in China itself. Because all policies couldn't make the anticipated bounce after the reopening and actually not only foreigners but also locals are basically selling waiting so far in vain for some policy change
 

zgx09t

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You are incoherent, in the first place, how can China even physically manage to "invade" inside itself??

Whatever the west says on paper, they still have huge collaterals in China, which of course would be seized if they commit aggression against China first. But it's not like China relies on that to fund its defenses... Not even close.

I wouldn't be this confident if I were you. Have you ever heard of tax heavens and offshore capital, just skimming the surface, let alone the giga factory and such.
You may actually be the one holding the bag if you know how international finance works.
 

zgx09t

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I am very coherent and playing with words wont' change the fact that if foreign investors are out and china owns foreign debt they are in a bad situation regardless if they rely on these funds. What I mean is forcing foreign investments out while keeping foreign debt is the stupidest think they can do and of course they are not doing this on purpose. But it's just funny to read all possible explanation and theories for that without the most obvious one. Which is simply that Chinese financial conditions are deteriorating by the day, exports 2.3% increase year over year which was a lock down year with -10% decrease. And December exports -7% usd, imports flat, consumer prices steady decreasing. Everyone can see data is more or so stagnant even in comparison with previous worst lock down year. But still no one sees the problem in China itself. Because all policies couldn't make the anticipated bounce after the reopening and actually not only foreigners but also locals are basically selling waiting so far in vain for some policy change

Quoting a few disparate data, what like 3 here? and spinning the rest about China's huge and complex economy is what we see here almost every week.
We won't even bother to fact check let alone interpret this boring set of spiel.
 

zgx09t

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I wouldn't be this confident if I were you. Have you ever heard of tax heavens and offshore capital, just skimming the surface, let alone the giga factory and such.
You may actually be the one holding the bag if you know how international finance works.

Sorry @Biscuits, I was trying to quote to the one above your post.


Yes, all investors are keen to sell at 50% or more loss for what exactly reason?

Yep, good riddance. No one from the west will have investments in China. And let's see what happens when China invades Taiwan ..

or when they simply will upset uncle Sam -> China will be left holding the bag with how many billions of treasuries they have? And all these billions will be moved in Taiwan military/reconstruction accounts. And as a contra measure China will have zero collateral to seize from the West. Nice plan indeed :)
 

Biscuits

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You won't bother to check anything anyways but just write some wishful theories mostly based on propaganda. As Nixon visited China last century he asked Mao why there were so many posters against USA. Mao told him to ignore the propaganda for the masses and speak business. Of course Chinese authorities are much smarter than all propaganda consumers here but unfortunately things are not going well financially for China
Source: you talking out of your ass
and this could contribute to a world recession. And all recent political "changes" in the country could be a result these troubles. Let's see if China could turn the corner this year .. and not the wrong corner like last year, And one last thing - if 10 ppl write 10 times sth false it won't make it true ;)
If 1 idiot writes 10 times something false also doesn't make it true

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Bellum_Romanum

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You won't bother to check anything anyways but just write some wishful theories mostly based on propaganda. As Nixon visited China last century he asked Mao why there were so many posters against USA. Mao told him to ignore the propaganda for the masses and speak business. Of course Chinese authorities are much smarter than all propaganda consumers here but unfortunately things are not going well financially for China and this could contribute to a world recession. And all recent political "changes" in the country could be a result these troubles. Let's see if China could turn the corner this year .. and not the wrong corner like last year, And one last thing - if 10 ppl write 10 times sth false it won't make it true ;)
OOOOOHH The White Western Oracle Speaks and Chinese Commies ought to listen. China is doomed!! And will fall if people like us idiotic Chinese and Chinese government don't heed and accept the advice of people like this imbecile who fashions himself as the arbiter of all things China.

The success of China is almost always exclusively attributed to the GENEROSITY OF AMERICA/WEST. ALL THE FAILURES = MAO, COMMIES/CCP. HU JINTAO is being propped up as some sort of Liberal autocratic leader of China by the same fella and his ilk just to try and score phantom points against Xi Jinping, a.k.a. Winnie the Poo, Mao incarnate, all seeing, and all-knowing dictator of red Chyna.

Man, if success was primarily based on such warped and fanatical assumptions then countries that were whoring themselves to the west/America would have been rich as hell by now but they aren't. They are weak, corrupt, and poorer than ever before. See the Philippines, Argentina, Liberia, West African countries, Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq, Libya, All the Latin American countries etc..Western White supremacist loves to take credit where credit isn't due especially when it comes to all things China. Who lost China? As the charged against Truman after their "failure" in securing their puppet KMT with the Civil War against the CPC/PLA when America isn't entitled to own anything that never even belonged to America/West in the first place?

@BrokeGambler a.k.a. @Sleepystudent, ought to stay broke by changing your moniker more than you can say CHYNA. You're nothing but a persistent weed that keeps spouting and must simply needs to be whacked time and again.
 
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