Chinese Economics Thread

USTBasisRollCarry

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Yet, Chinese startups have functioned in its own financial structure for 30 years and developed many successful companies. And the Chinese financial system hasn't yet seen the same level of meltdown we've seen in Western one in 2008 and again now.
Discussions of why China has fewer startups than the United States have an invariable financial sector component. That's my entire point. Not that the US financial sector is perfect.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Discussions of why China has fewer startups than the United States have an invariable financial sector component. That's my entire point. Not that the US financial sector is perfect.
Or maybe China doesn't need tens of hundreds of startups jumping on the next feeding through I mean venture capital money drops.

Now you have every crypto and web3 "entrepreneur" going feet first into chatgpt AI systems.. Because money is being directed to that.

China seems to have a more long term vision and state controlled capital being allocated to that vision.
 

gelgoog

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China will have to take care with trade with Brazil. They typically want to manufacture everything inside Brazil rather than import things. They have huge tariffs on imports of everything from consumer electronics to cars. It is basically like doing business with India.
 

tphuang

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Discussions of why China has fewer startups than the United States have an invariable financial sector component. That's my entire point. Not that the US financial sector is perfect.
Do you have any really reliable data on these startups?
1) on how startups are counted
2) how long they are around
3) promising startups that are looking for money, but can't get access to money

There are always ways that you can improve the Chinese economic structure. But given its successes, the areas of improvement may not be where you think they are.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Let's see how many of those startups are even around even two years. How many of those are even cash flow positive? It didn't matter when there was free money.
Exactly right. 98% of US "innovation" is financial chicanery. If they ever have a good idea, China can just copy it. No shame in that and I'll admit among friends that that's something China often does.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I have to say the quality of this thread is really going down. This is a Chinese economics thread. Let's stay on topic rather than talking about how much you don't like random twitter takes. There are enough low quality threads on this forum that we don't need another one here.
I apologize for playing my part on this since I posted a social media post from Tiktok. I was genuinely interested in understanding the person behind the videos message and logic regarding the opinion of China not at all interested in making the Yuan a freely convertible currency.
 
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