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broadsword
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Nice to know that Xinjiang is also moving up at a fast clip. Jobs is what the local people badly need. Other than minerals, it can be a major source of wine.
Schumacher
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It's myth buster time again, not so much the GDP part since I think most already know that but still good to see China's per capita GDP growth last decade was the fastest in human history.
The myth is that somehow China 'does not consume enough'. The fact is China had by far the largest rate of increase in consumption of all major economies last decade.
But this is not to say I necessarily agree that China 'should increase consumption' much more as I believe save and invest should and will remain the main theme of China's economy for years to come.
Notice also our favorite comedian Gordon Chang got a mention in the report.
An awesome decade of growth - and fallacy
China is rapidly approaching its once-in-a-decade change in president and government, which seems an appropriate time to survey the country's economic performance over the last decade. As the economic data for 2012 is not yet in, the decade will be taken as 2001-2011. Strictly speaking, this period includes a year of China's previous administration; but this is merely a statistical quibble as nine-tenths of the period was overseen by the present government.
Some statistics over that ten year period are well known: China became the world's second largest economy and the world's largest goods exporter. But such statistics greatly underestimate the scale of China's economic achievement. The last 10 years in China's economy may be summed up in two overwhelming facts which place all other economic data in context.
• In the last decade China experienced the fastest growth in GDP per capita of any major economy in human history.
• Translated into living standards, this means that in the last 10 years, China has experienced by far the fastest consumption growth rate of any major economy.
As these are astonishing achievements it is worth giving the exact data.
China's annual average GDP per capita growth in the last ten year period was 9.9 percent. The total increase in GDP per capita over the decade was 158 percent. Historically, as shown in World Bank data, and for earlier periods in Angus Maddison's standard work World Population, GDP and GDP Per Capita 1-2006AD, this makes China's the fastest rate of increase ever recorded by a major economy. This figure is all the more extraordinary when one considers that it includes the period since 2008, which has seen the most serious international economic crisis for 80 years.
In terms of contemporary economic comparisons, no other major economy remotely approaches China's scale of economic growth during this 10 year period. The data for the largest G7 economies, the BRICS countries and South Korea, are set out in Table 1. China's 158 percent increase in GDP per capita over the period is almost twice that of the next best performing major economy - India. In addition, China's growth was two-and-a-half times Russia's, more than three times South Korea's, seven times Germany's and twenty times U.S.'s.
As a foundationless myth is peddled in some sections of the media that China's economic growth has not been translated into an increase in its population's consumption, it is also worth giving data for this. As all countries' statistics for 2011 are not yet available, the period 2000-2010 will be taken. The total increase in China's consumption per capita in that period was 103 percent - again the highest recorded by any major economy. The data is set out in Table 2. Only Russia's increase in consumption compares to China's - and Russia's was, in significant part, due to its recovery from a long period of depression. China's total rate of increase in consumption was 57% higher than India's, three times South Korea's, almost 10 times that of the U.S., and almost sixteen times that of Germany. In short, far from being slow, China's consumption growth rate was far more rapid than that of any other major economy.
This achievement also casts light on another issue -denial of elementary economic facts by those who regularly predicted that China's economy would fail during this period. It would take too much space to make a comprehensive list, so here are some highlights.
• Fallacy: The Economist magazine's special supplement, 'Out of puff', published in June 2002, claimed: "in the coming decade, therefore, China seems set to become more unstable. It will face growing unrest as unemployment mounts."' It argued: '"the [Chinese] economy still relies primarily on domestic engines of growth, which are sputtering. Growth over the last five years has relied heavily on massive government spending. As a result, the government's debt is rising fast. Coupled with the banks bad loans and the state's huge pension liabilities, this is a financial crisis in the making."
• Reality: Instead of 'crisis,' China experienced the most rapid growth ever in GDP per capita of any major economy.
• Fallacy: Gordon Chang predicted in The Coming Collapse of China in 2002 that: "A half-decade ago the leaders of the People's Republic of China had real choices. Today they do not. They have no exit. They have run out of time."
• Reality: Instead of 'collapse' China experienced unprecedentedly rapid economic growth.
• Fallacy: When the international financial crisis erupted, Michael Pettis of Beijing University in 2009 reiterated: "I continue to stand by my comment [made] last year... that the US would be the first major economy out of the crisis and China one of the last."
• Reality: In fact, in the four years since the international financial crisis began, China's economy has grown by 40 percent and the U.S. economy by 1 percent.
Such statements, and many more could be given, are not errors of predictions on details, which are inevitable; they are examples of analyses which simply got it wrong in predicting the entire trajectory of China's economy. To predict 'sputtering', 'crisis' or 'collapse' when China experienced the most rapid per capita economic growth of any major country in human history would, if rational standards of debate were used, lead to the discounting of future prognostications based on these analyses. It is a measure of unscientific bias that Gordon Chang continues to be retained as a 'China expert' by Forbes and that Michael Pettis is still printed in the Financial Times predicting three percent growth in China. Given their prolonged failure to withstand the test of facts, such views may be discounted.
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The myth is that somehow China 'does not consume enough'. The fact is China had by far the largest rate of increase in consumption of all major economies last decade.
But this is not to say I necessarily agree that China 'should increase consumption' much more as I believe save and invest should and will remain the main theme of China's economy for years to come.
Notice also our favorite comedian Gordon Chang got a mention in the report.
An awesome decade of growth - and fallacy
China is rapidly approaching its once-in-a-decade change in president and government, which seems an appropriate time to survey the country's economic performance over the last decade. As the economic data for 2012 is not yet in, the decade will be taken as 2001-2011. Strictly speaking, this period includes a year of China's previous administration; but this is merely a statistical quibble as nine-tenths of the period was overseen by the present government.
Some statistics over that ten year period are well known: China became the world's second largest economy and the world's largest goods exporter. But such statistics greatly underestimate the scale of China's economic achievement. The last 10 years in China's economy may be summed up in two overwhelming facts which place all other economic data in context.
• In the last decade China experienced the fastest growth in GDP per capita of any major economy in human history.
• Translated into living standards, this means that in the last 10 years, China has experienced by far the fastest consumption growth rate of any major economy.
As these are astonishing achievements it is worth giving the exact data.
China's annual average GDP per capita growth in the last ten year period was 9.9 percent. The total increase in GDP per capita over the decade was 158 percent. Historically, as shown in World Bank data, and for earlier periods in Angus Maddison's standard work World Population, GDP and GDP Per Capita 1-2006AD, this makes China's the fastest rate of increase ever recorded by a major economy. This figure is all the more extraordinary when one considers that it includes the period since 2008, which has seen the most serious international economic crisis for 80 years.
In terms of contemporary economic comparisons, no other major economy remotely approaches China's scale of economic growth during this 10 year period. The data for the largest G7 economies, the BRICS countries and South Korea, are set out in Table 1. China's 158 percent increase in GDP per capita over the period is almost twice that of the next best performing major economy - India. In addition, China's growth was two-and-a-half times Russia's, more than three times South Korea's, seven times Germany's and twenty times U.S.'s.
As a foundationless myth is peddled in some sections of the media that China's economic growth has not been translated into an increase in its population's consumption, it is also worth giving data for this. As all countries' statistics for 2011 are not yet available, the period 2000-2010 will be taken. The total increase in China's consumption per capita in that period was 103 percent - again the highest recorded by any major economy. The data is set out in Table 2. Only Russia's increase in consumption compares to China's - and Russia's was, in significant part, due to its recovery from a long period of depression. China's total rate of increase in consumption was 57% higher than India's, three times South Korea's, almost 10 times that of the U.S., and almost sixteen times that of Germany. In short, far from being slow, China's consumption growth rate was far more rapid than that of any other major economy.
This achievement also casts light on another issue -denial of elementary economic facts by those who regularly predicted that China's economy would fail during this period. It would take too much space to make a comprehensive list, so here are some highlights.
• Fallacy: The Economist magazine's special supplement, 'Out of puff', published in June 2002, claimed: "in the coming decade, therefore, China seems set to become more unstable. It will face growing unrest as unemployment mounts."' It argued: '"the [Chinese] economy still relies primarily on domestic engines of growth, which are sputtering. Growth over the last five years has relied heavily on massive government spending. As a result, the government's debt is rising fast. Coupled with the banks bad loans and the state's huge pension liabilities, this is a financial crisis in the making."
• Reality: Instead of 'crisis,' China experienced the most rapid growth ever in GDP per capita of any major economy.
• Fallacy: Gordon Chang predicted in The Coming Collapse of China in 2002 that: "A half-decade ago the leaders of the People's Republic of China had real choices. Today they do not. They have no exit. They have run out of time."
• Reality: Instead of 'collapse' China experienced unprecedentedly rapid economic growth.
• Fallacy: When the international financial crisis erupted, Michael Pettis of Beijing University in 2009 reiterated: "I continue to stand by my comment [made] last year... that the US would be the first major economy out of the crisis and China one of the last."
• Reality: In fact, in the four years since the international financial crisis began, China's economy has grown by 40 percent and the U.S. economy by 1 percent.
Such statements, and many more could be given, are not errors of predictions on details, which are inevitable; they are examples of analyses which simply got it wrong in predicting the entire trajectory of China's economy. To predict 'sputtering', 'crisis' or 'collapse' when China experienced the most rapid per capita economic growth of any major country in human history would, if rational standards of debate were used, lead to the discounting of future prognostications based on these analyses. It is a measure of unscientific bias that Gordon Chang continues to be retained as a 'China expert' by Forbes and that Michael Pettis is still printed in the Financial Times predicting three percent growth in China. Given their prolonged failure to withstand the test of facts, such views may be discounted.
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