Urbanization will grow - but unfortunately previous rates of infrastructure buildout was not sustainable - so relatively speaking it won't be a contributor to future GDP growth. Put it this way, we've 'pulled forward' a lot of infrastructure build out and unfortunately a lot of it was built in the wrong places. Net/net, its probably a wash. Furthermore, urbanization requires migrants actually planting roots - this is why Hukou reforms are critical. The problem here is that those who want to move to cities can't afford to own property in those cities where they want to move to, and yet significant downturn in property prices also crushes consumption in urban areas where majority of consumption happens. So the only way to do this is to 'grow your way out of it' by keeping real estate flat and growing other parts of economy/disposable income. Marking down Tier 1 city real estate by 50% is how we have a riot / repeat of 1989.Interesting. I would have put urbanization as the biggest driver of growth for the next 20-30 years. This is an excerpt from a Reddit post I made a while back
I've never bought the "investor confidence" argument because I believe greed always trumps fear. Sure, entrepreneurs in sectors the government doesn't like are going to be hit hard - and the unlucky ones might find themselves in prison - but there are always new ones willing to take risks. It's especially easy in China where the government does your market research for you and straight out tells you the sectors it wants to grow.
Ultimately, as you said, markets bounce back.
That comes with its own pathologies and I'm deeply ambivalent about China going down this road. I recognize the necessity of a strong financial system and I hope the government is capable enough to stop the inevitable parade of bubbles, crashes, and frauds that will come with financialization. Also, the China's industrial base must be unharmed by this - the deindustrialization that happened in Britain and America must be prevented at all costs. If the price for that is a third-rate financial system forever, so be it.
I wonder how much AI and surveillance technology can help with upward accountability from local governments to the central government. Something like this (Stephen Chen and SCMP, so take with sodium)?
Perhaps I'm being overly optimistic, but I take the Legalist view that the scum of the Earth can be made to behave righteously with the consistent application of law.
I encourage you to post more of your thoughts about your long-term view (1-2 decades) of where China is heading.
Mittlestand in Germany / Advisory Committees in German enterprises is what they're modeling after. This is why there's a focus on Little Giants as part of industrial upgrade. We shall see, what you and I think doesn't matter - it's what policymakers decide that will matter in terms of what market cap to GDP makes sense.
We'll see on local governance - what Xi labels as "Full Process People's Democracy" is thus far not yet significant enough to move the needle but it's something to watch.
The long term is made up of many short terms - especially given where we are in the reform cycle - the next year or two are crucially important. The base effect gets easier (as real estate shrink + other parts grow) over time.