Chinese Economics Thread

GZDRefugee

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Also the sensor saturation problem where 63 is the limit and anything above that no longer matters. That means that beyond a certain limit, further intensive development of megacities is underestimated. You can reduce the gain but then it underestimates rural areas as they get binned into the 0 category.
If this is the level of research coming out of the US, my how the mighty have fallen.

Should have hired some Chinese international students to run the study.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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If this is the level of research coming out of the US, my how the mighty have fallen.

Should have hired some Chinese international students to run the study.
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And there's more, as some certain states have declared an entire branch of study - mathematics - to be racist.

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Gogurt4ever

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First
If the author uses light, a big part of China's urban transportation is buried underground as MRT, if China's underground subway is on par ( read : as bad as ) US, then many cars will emerge in the street and illuminate the night.
Second
Actually, China's GDPs were understated during 2002-2008, which is why by then Premier Li said that government figures can't be trusted. Premier Wen at that time had inherited " buying time, hide your strength " from Deng. That was why in 2012-2015, when China's growth go slower, everyone said hard landing, etc.
Third
For the just hatched, nice try to bait, hope you stay here for a long time
It generated some good discussion, didn't it? And please cut it out with the silly accusations; reminds me of the people who call everyone a wumao. Yes, the scientific article upon which this video is based is flawed, as was mentioned in the original post. Regardless, it's still worth discussing, as is other China-critical content that has a little more quality than the "China will collapse in 30 days!!!" videos on YT. Not everything has to be cheerleading.
 

zgx09t

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It generated some good discussion, didn't it? And please cut it out with the silly accusations; reminds me of the people who call everyone a wumao. Yes, the scientific article upon which this video is based is flawed, as was mentioned in the original post. Regardless, it's still worth discussing, as is other China-critical content that has a little more quality than the "China will collapse in 30 days!!!" videos on YT. Not everything has to be cheerleading.

Still a shitpost.

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Blitzo

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It generated some good discussion, didn't it? And please cut it out with the silly accusations; reminds me of the people who call everyone a wumao. Yes, the scientific article upon which this video is based is flawed, as was mentioned in the original post. Regardless, it's still worth discussing, as is other China-critical content that has a little more quality than the "China will collapse in 30 days!!!" videos on YT. Not everything has to be cheerleading.

Posting this type of content itself is not the issue, but rather it comes down to the sort of commentary or questions that the OP (in this case, yourself) is contributing with it.


If you were wanting to ask for clarification as to whether the claims in the video were true, sensible or logical then that is one thing -- i.e.: challenging the premise and claims to begin with.
But you were asking what could "explain it", meaning that you believed that the claims and premise in the video made were reasonable.


Perhaps you did not intend it to be bait and did genuinely believe that the claims made in the video were reasonable, but in that case it just means there's a bit more to learn and to be vigilant about, and you're going to continue getting this sort of response.
 

supercat

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He claims light intensity, which is related to electric consumption/production, is a good proxy for GDP.
If electricity is the metric for GDP, then why is he ignoring that China produces double the amount of electricity of the US?

Ok, auto sales data is ALSO highly correlated with economic growth.
You can also add steel production, cement production, crops production, protein intake etc etc. China is by far the world's largest manufacturer and trading nation. In PPP terms, China is the world's largest economy, about 20% larger than U.S.' The following diagram tells you that YouTube videos like that may have an ideological axe to grid.
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AssassinsMace

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Video by an economist claiming that China's economy is smaller than reported, based on night-light data. He's not one of the usual China collapse guys either. Any thoughts beyond reflexive dismissal? It does seem like they're trying to use a relatively broad cross-country method to explain specific within-country differences. Nonetheless, what could explain the slow night-light growth?

Seriously... They're using "nightlight data" to estimate China's economy...? When I first saw that at a glance I thought they were talking about something new and sophisticated because no one would be that stupid to use a satellite photo of how many and how bright lights you can see in countries at night to estimate economic performance... They fvcking did! Oh my god... how many idiots in the West that think they're experts...? The video emphasized how many experts helped confirmed this report. First of all he didn't show who, he just said it. Plus if I can again bring up world renown economics expert Nouriel Roubini who said China was collapsing because when he was in China and took a maglev train from Shanghai to Hangzhou, he said he was the only one on the train meaning China spent billions on a train no one was using. I'm sure he was the only one on board since there is no maglev train route from Shanghai to Hangzhou. A world renown expert outright lied for whatever political purpose...

Nightlights... Automatically tells you they're an outsider looking in only seeing the surface and nothing inside. If you look at that satellite picture, India is far more brighter than anywhere in China. Does anyone believe India, notorious for brownouts because they have a poor electricity grid, is outperforming China? In China they like to light up buildings at night to have elaborate light shows. But somehow not reflected in that satellite photo. Nighttime where everyone is mostly asleep thus there would be less electrical activity but some how brighter in Western countries than in China where they light up buildings at night... That satellite picture the whole world is at night. Automatically tells you manipulation but somehow we're supposed to believe the West doesn't lie and manipulate in order to believe this report is straight and true.

Just because someone can post a video on YouTube it doesn't mean they've vetted the video to make sure it's true. I'll tell how far self-serving organizations will go to push their biased political agenda. I talked about before about supposedly independent movie fanboy sights that all talk about the same things literally released all at the same time. There's one guy out there who hates Disney and bashes everything they do including all Star Wars movies as all being bad. Well someone posted one of his early reviews of The Last Jedi before he was paid to turn his YouTube channel into a right-wing shill where he said he loved the movie where after he had nothing but venom. Then when people started to question his motivations, he posts a video where he's normally in a studio and not from his bedroom or basement inside from his $50,000+ sports car he got for being a right-wing shill. That's how much money these political organizations will spend to get their agenda out there. Why Disney? Because the right hates their woke pop culture that they spread around the world and against right-wing values and they're willing to pay people who act like they're independent to push their agenda and here they want to people to stop watching anything Disney because these fanboys are what makes Disney money. You don't think they would pay someone on the internet that is supposedly respected to say something negative as if that makes it true? It's all a big manipulation which something they say they don't do to give themselves a sense of being credible.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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You can also add steel production, cement production, crops production, protein intake etc etc. China is by far the world's largest manufacturer and trading nation. In PPP terms, China is the world's largest economy, about 20% larger than U.S.' The following diagram tells you that YouTube videos like that may have an ideological axe to grid.
PLao2Ou.jpg
No different when the f..king maroons said something similar at the height if Covid-19 pandemic in Wuhan, China. Making laughable and absurd claims that the number or cell phones out of service = equals TOTAL NUMBER OF DEATH from Covid-19 that China was suppressing and lying about to their people, and the world. I bet @Gogurt4ever you must have also entertained and perhaps believed the plausibility of this scenario, no? How about the parking lots at some hospital in China being used as yet another proof that China was lying about their total number of cases about the virus...even the supposed high-esteemed Harvard University published an intellectually bankrupt article lending credibility on such otherwise absurd and retarded inference. But anything about China is always seen and will be seen as believable no matter how insane and absurd the accusations. The more outrageous the more the monkeys believe it to be true. Xi Jinping getting couped? Lol
 
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