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56860

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On a spearate note, you guys ever noticed when was the last time these type of China collapse theory was trending? Around 2008 I recall. And we all know what happened around that time. And then everyone suddenly went back to minding their own business during early 2010s all the way to 2017.
In my experience, China collapse theory has never stopped trending. There were periods in the last three decades when it was more popular and periods when it was less, but it's always been something MSM could fall back on to generate clicks.
 

ansy1968

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In my experience, China collapse theory has never stopped trending. There were periods in the last three decades when it was more popular and periods when it was less, but it's always been something MSM could fall back on to generate clicks.
The more the Collective West is in economic malaise, the more China economic collapse article will appear and leading writer Comrade Chang who reign for 21 years will have many competitors, people like Peter Zeihan, seeing Gordy had been heralded , shower with praise as a Chinese expert par excellence even though he never studied and even visited China relying instead on his partial ethnicity, he want a pieces of the pie....lol

Drugs sell especially of Hopium and Copium variety and like Opioid and Fentanyl, they need the Chinese to supply them the basic ingredients...lol
 

56860

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The more the Collective West is in economic malaise, the more China economic collapse article will appear and leading writer Comrade Chang who reign for 21 years will have many competitors, people like Peter Zeihan, seeing Gordy had been heralded , shower with praise as a Chinese expert par excellence even though he never studied and even visited China relying instead on his partial ethnicity, he want a pieces of the pie....lol

Drugs sell especially of Hopium and Copium variety and like Opioid and Fentanyl, they need the Chinese to supply them the basic ingredients...lol
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When the fentanyl hits different
 

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China's south-to-north water diversion project passes verification test

By Global Times Published: Aug 27, 2022 01:56 AM
Aerial photo taken on August 26, 2022 shows the Yellow River Crossing Project tunnel of the Middle Line of South-North Water Transfer Project in Central China's Jiaozuo, Henan Province. On August 25, 2022, the Middle Line of South-north Water Transfer Project passed the completion and acceptance stage, presided over by the Ministry of Water Resources. Photo VCG

Aerial photo taken on August 26, 2022 shows the Yellow River Crossing Project tunnel of the Middle Line of South-North Water Transfer Project in Central China's Jiaozuo, Henan Province. On August 25, 2022, the Middle Line of South-north Water Transfer Project passed the completion and acceptance stage, presided over by the Ministry of Water Resources. Photo VCG

Although East China’s Jiangsu Province and Central China’s Hubei Province, two main water sources for China's south-to-north water diversion project, have seen extreme heat waves recently, experts said it will not affect the overall operation of the water project, which will play a key role in transferring water from China's water-rich south to the arid north.

In the latest development, a project to go through the bed of the Yellow River passed a verification test on Thursday. It marks the verification passage of all the 155 units in the project and the official operation of the full project, Xinhua News Agency reported.

The official operation of the eastern and central route of the project is expected to optimize China’s hydropower resources and systematically strengthen China’s ability to cope with flood and drought, Chen Jia, an independent research fellow on international strategy, told the Global Times on Friday.

The middle route, the most prominent one due to its role in feeding water to the nation's capital, begins at the Danjiangkou Reservoir in the Hanjiang River in central China’s Hubei and runs northeastward to Beijing and Tianjin. It began supplying water in December 2014.

The eastern route began supplying water in November 2013, transferring water from Jiangsu to areas including East China’s Shandong Province.

As of Thursday, more than 56 billion cubic meters of water has been transferred along the route, generating significant economic, social and ecological benefits.

In August, the sources of the two routes, Yangzhou in Jiangsu and Danjiangkou in Hubei experienced severe heat waves with record-breaking temperatures of over 40 C, triggering concern over the supply of water for the diversion project.

But experts said the hot temperatures won’t affect the stable operation of the project.

“When such mega water facilities are being designed and constructed, issues such as weather conditions are taken into consideration,” Lin Boqiang, director of the China Center for Energy Economics Research at Xiamen University, told the Global Times on Friday.

Water facility departments in the two cities are also taking advantage of the tide of the river to increase the water discharge and ensure water supply along the route.

Dams in Jiangdu district, Yangzhou, a source for the eastern route of the south-to-north water diversion project, have continuously pumped 57.93 million cubic meters of water from July to end August, which is equivalent to filling more than 60 “Slender West Lake”, the Yangtse Evening Post reported.

The Danjiangkou Reservoir in Hubei has increased the water discharge volume and provided 131 million cubic meters of water in four days from August 19 to 22, according to Hubei Daily.

“Even when water shortages occur in parts of these provinces, the national network will quickly make up for it. Therefore, local high temperatures will not affect the overall planning and dispatching of water resources in China,” Chen said.

China has stepped up water conservancy construction this year, with construction of 10,644 new projects valued at 414.4 billion yuan ($60.30 billion) starting in the first five months of the year, Wei Shanzhong, vice minister of water resources, told a press conference in June.

The investment in the country's water conservancy construction is expected to exceed 800 billion yuan this year, official data showed.
 

ansy1968

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All these China is collapsing narratives in the media are all about how the West doesn't want any money invested into China because of their own dire situations. They have paint China as a bad place to invest. The alarm bells are ringing in the West. Their supply chains spread throughout the non-Western world meaning without them all their prices go up. Whether it's from their their own sanctions or someone denying it from them, their economies are vulnerable.
Sir I think Globalization will devolved into 4 Regional Bloc with a Central power in the middle like that of the Solar System.

1) China with ASEAN,

2) US with NAFTA,

3) Russia with the Central Asia

4) EU with Central Europe.

All four will vie for influence for the remaining BLOC such as Africa, Latin American and the Middle East, from the four Blocs we can see the merging into two with China and Russia combining with Eurasia Economic Union and that of BRI and the US enforcing their policy over EU. And here China BRI policy is crucial, as shown by the willingness of major countries of each Bloc want to participate like Argentina from Latin America, Iran and SA from middle east and most of Africa. Making China as the center of trade and commerce instead of the US. IF implement well those BLOCS will receive Chinese investment, to produce Chinese brand product with critical component coming from China. Thus a win win situation. Lessening the Collective West economic footprint and making them irrelevant.
 

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Sir I think Globalization will devolved into 4 Regional Bloc with a Central power in the middle like that of the Solar System.

1) China with ASEAN,

2) US with NAFTA,

3) Russia with the Central Asia

4) EU with Central Europe.

All four will vie for influence for the remaining BLOC such as Africa, Latin American and the Middle East, from the four Blocs we can see the merging into two with China and Russia combining with Eurasia Economic Union and that of BRI and the US enforcing their policy over EU. And here China BRI policy is crucial, as shown by the willingness of major countries of each Bloc want to participate like Argentina from Latin America, Iran and SA from middle east and most of Africa. Making China as the center of trade and commerce instead of the US. IF implement well those BLOCS will receive Chinese investment, to produce Chinese brand product with critical component coming from China. Thus a win win situation. Lessening the Collective West economic footprint and making them irrelevant.

I'm not sure if Central Asia will still remain with Russia. Even Russia is being drawn into China's orbit.
 

56860

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Bro it will be difficult without Russian permission, after all its their Sphere of Influence. And one more thing Russia is a commodity superpower, that alone makes her first among equals.
I see Russia falling into the Chinese sphere of influence as:

a) the former is cut off from western technologies and to a certain extent, markets
b) the power disparity between Russia and China grows from large to absurd

No amount of Soviet ego and hubris will change the brutal reality of the situation: Russia has few to turn to aside from its giant neighbor twenty times its size.
 
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