Chinese Economics Thread

coolgod

Colonel
Registered Member
Can anyone run me through on the Henan bank case ? This is a case of mutual fund failing, but investors are demanding the banks to pay their capital instead ?
A complicated mix of scammer stealing billions from 7 local banks and fleeing to the US, corrupt and incompetent local government, greedy millionaire investors from all over china buying 9%-10% annual investment products, and misinformed locals whose deposits are frozen, but whose deposits (not investments) are insured by banking regulators.

You can fill in and create the story for yourself from here.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
I repeat, what I hate is the way this kind of problem is handled.Using people who don't wear uniforms to "solve" the protesters, but the government thinks they can get rid of the relationship by doing so, stupid idea.

What you see is the worst result of this matter.Last night, the government issued an announcement promising to solve the matter, but everyone was wondering whether it was true.
The practice of using "officers or police on civilian clothing" is a common practice or trick in America, Canada as well, so don't presume to act so indignant about the Chinese police and or authorities for doing the same thing albeit their tactics varies. So I don't understand the problem.
 

NiuBiDaRen

Brigadier
Registered Member
The practice of using "officers or police on civilian clothing" is a common practice or trick in America, Canada as well, so don't presume to act so indignant about the Chinese police and or authorities for doing the same thing albeit their tactics varies. So I don't understand the problem.
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Do policemen in China pose as delivery drivers, eg Meituan?

I would love to see American policemen posing in gimp suits next
 

hullopilllw

Junior Member
Registered Member
I repeat, what I hate is the way this kind of problem is handled.Using people who don't wear uniforms to "solve" the protesters, but the government thinks they can get rid of the relationship by doing so, stupid idea.

What you see is the worst result of this matter.Last night, the government issued an announcement promising to solve the matter, but everyone was wondering whether it was true.
Dont be an idiot here already, blackmailing state bank is an offense and wont get you anywhere. When you signed the form to invest in said fund, you already agree to accept the risk of losing capital invested.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
I repeat the content of another reply:
A few days ago,the frozen bank account was suddenly unsealed for half an hour without warning,then some money was withdrawn.

There is no reasonable explanation for this matter so far,there are suspicions that the government is helping those involved in the case to move their assets.
Then after the central government issued a warning,some depositors' health codes are marked in red again.

A series of coincidences add up to no coincidence.

By the way, it is very common to trick depositors into buying financial products in China,once the problem occurs, the bank will immediately throw the responsibility to the salesman.

The core of this series of problems is that regulation is completely out of control,many wrong practices have not been corrected for many years.
Personal responsibility and accountability can't be always assigned to the government. It's not there to solve your dumb assery, human avarice, most especially greed for being enticed with wanting to get rich scheme.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
Where is your evidence that some money was withdrawn from the frozen account and that such an act was local corruption? If someone was able to withdraw money and was helped by the government secretly, why would they make such information public? Financial regulation for shadow banking and fintech is a difficult thing, all around the world, this it isn't a China unique problem. Crypto scams wiped out many investors recently, do you see those people illegally protesting outside the regional Federal Reserve Bank?
Just imagine if the central government didn't outlaw crypto nonsense in China, the howlings and the screaming from some greedy idiots in China would have been worse. And yet, there was some persistent and lamentable comments that were made against the government rule expressing strong disagreement saying that the government rules were too suffocating for not allowing citizens the space to operate and "invest" blah blah...and the result so far has been catastrophic in the west, especially for the many folks that has been convinced to invest all their money in that scheme. @zhangjim you ought to be more restrained, introspective with your comments and not react so emotionally clouding your judgment by treating or looking at the government in the worst possible light. I do not deny that the government could have handled this issue differently but that's a far different matter to inferring some sort of meltdown that their action is a step away from deploying tanks against the people. You're quite susceptible and impressionable enough to be recruited by the NED types, Foreign intelligence operators because what you expressed, your mindset, you're disillusionment from the system, mistrust of the government, not to mention you're naivety and well intentioned care for your like minded Chinese are some of the components/traits and hallmarks perfect as their candidate.
 

Coalescence

Senior Member
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A complicated mix of scammer stealing billions from 7 local banks and fleeing to the US, corrupt and incompetent local government, greedy millionaire investors from all over china buying 9%-10% annual investment products, and misinformed locals whose deposits are frozen, but whose deposits (not investments) are insured by banking regulators.

You can fill in and create the story for yourself from here.
Your posts is very helpful in explaining the situation that is happening, thank you. So I guess first the government needs to figure out which people's account are deposits that are insured and which are "investors" trying to scam the government into bailing them out. After insuring and giving access to those who are innocent, the government media needs to explain the situation, name the scammer, and give jail time/fines to those "investors" and paid provocateurs that caused the scene.

The scammer should be sanctioned, put on the wanted list and get "Epstein'd" in the future, other than that the CPC can turn this situation into propaganda, about foreign meddling and corrupt capitalist to further their political influence and teach the population to be more alert and susceptible to this stuff.
 
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