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AssassinsMace

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Though I'm not a fan of hubris, this opinion piece has some though realities for Western societies to swallow:

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Wow that was said perfectly. When I was younger I wondered who would dare challenge the West. I wasn't thinking China then. There was really no one. We need a world revolution. The West thinks it's passed some sort of test that their crimes against humanity can no longer be seen through those lenses. No, the real test comes when no longer does the West get to stand on the stage of the world looking down and judging everyone. The real test is how well do we see the West handle just being a voice in the crowd. I'll tell you now. They will fail.
 
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Blitzo

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Honestly that article borders on Jai Hind levels of wankery. I'm all for the world moving away from the Western narrative on China but this goes way too far in the other direction.

I think the most unique thing about that narrative is the suggestion of one where the world is truly democratic.


That is to say, a world where the geo-economic and geopolitical power and capability of individuals living in every part of the world is approximately equal, rather than one where power is vested overwhelmingly in a relatively all congregation of nations.

The author is over the top, but the description of China as the first nation to "attend university" from a collection of formerly impoverished and victimised nations through achieving geopolitical weight and capability, is one that I imagine is attractive to some individuals living in developing nations aspiring for something more for their own countries.
 

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Honestly that article borders on Jai Hind levels of wankery. I'm all for the world moving away from the Western narrative on China but this goes way too far in the other direction.
The difference between Jai Hind and China is that China actually backs up its talk with real, tangible progress. In fact, in most cases China doesn't even bother talking - it just gets sh*t done.
Though I'm not a fan of hubris, this opinion piece has some though realities for Western societies to swallow:

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The past 200 years were clearly an anomaly. The Chinese People are an intelligent, ambitious, and hard-working race, and the Chinese Nation is a glorious nation with over 5000 years of history and culture. China will soon match and surpass the world in advanced technology and return to its rightful position at the apex of human civilization.
 

emblem21

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The difference between Jai Hind and China is that China actually backs up its talk with real, tangible progress. In fact, in most cases China doesn't even bother talking - it just gets sh*t done.

The past 200 years were clearly an anomaly. The Chinese People are an intelligent, ambitious, and hard-working race, and the Chinese Nation is a glorious nation with over 5000 years of history and culture. China will soon match and surpass the world in advanced technology and return to its rightful position at the apex of human civilization.
As long as China doesn’t again become arrogant and continue their progress while dealing with the one problem that refuses to stop being stupid (everyone one knows who I am referring to) whilst making sure not to take too much losses, then a world lead by a more reasonable power instead of a genocidal power that paints itself as the main hero will be a truly welcome one
 

ansy1968

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As long as China doesn’t again become arrogant and continue their progress while dealing with the one problem that refuses to stop being stupid (everyone one knows who I am referring to) whilst making sure not to take too much losses, then a world lead by a more reasonable power instead of a genocidal power that paints itself as the main hero will be a truly welcome one
@emblem21 bro IF I may China should not become complacent, arrogant, hubris and condescending is a byproduct of it. Competition is good , it makes one grounded what I'm afraid of IF the US collapsed then what? Either the Chinese focus inward like it did during the Ming Dynasty or copy the US and become Imperialist.
 

AndrewS

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I think the most unique thing about that narrative is the suggestion of one where the world is truly democratic.


That is to say, a world where the geo-economic and geopolitical power and capability of individuals living in every part of the world is approximately equal, rather than one where power is vested overwhelmingly in a relatively all congregation of nations.

From the Chinese point of view, a world where everyone is prosperous is better than a US-dominated world today.
But for many US political leaders (Trump et al), a world where the US doesn't run everything is not palatable.

The author is over the top, but the description of China as the first nation to "attend university" from a collection of formerly impoverished and victimised nations through achieving geopolitical weight and capability, is one that I imagine is attractive to some individuals living in developing nations aspiring for something more for their own countries.

Since the Second World War, a number of European countries along with Japan and the East Asian Tiger economies made it.
However they were all too small to seriously challenge or reshape the existing order with the exception of Japan in the 1980s.
But Japan only had half the population of the USA, so Japan just didn't have enough geopolitical weight and capability to go its own way.
 
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