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EU and China Seal Investment Agreement to Open Chinese Market​

  • Long-sought pact marks major economic, political win for both
  • Deal highlights deepening of European, Chinese economic ties
The European Union and China announced the political approval of a long-sought agreement to open the Chinese market further to EU investors, marking an economic victory for both sides.

The breakthrough in negotiations on an EU-China investment accord signals the bloc’s determination to focus on economic opportunities in Asia even amid criticism of Beijing’s record on human rights. The accord could enter into force in early 2022, according to EU officials.

The deal, in the works since 2013, is also a salvo against the “America First” challenge to the multilateral order by outgoing President Donald Trump. The EU has lambasted Trump’s confrontational tactics toward China, urging engagement with Beijing in a bid to strengthen global rules.

“We are open for business but we are attached to reciprocity, level playing field & values,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in a post on Twitter on Wednesday. “Today, the EU & China concluded in principle negotiations on an investment agreement.”

Market Access
For the 27-nation EU, the pact expands access to the Chinese market for foreign investors in industries ranging from cars to telecommunications. Furthermore, the agreement tackles underlying Chinese policies deemed by Europe and the U.S. to be market-distorting: industrial subsidies, state control of enterprises and forced technology transfers.

For China, the accord bolsters the country’s claim to be a mainstream geopolitical force and may limit risks resulting from a tougher EU stance on Chinese investments in Europe. It also strengthens Beijing’s longstanding call for the start of negotiations on a free-trade pact with the EU, which has insisted on an investment deal first.

China ranked as the EU’s second-largest trade partner in 2019 (behind the U.S.), with two-way goods commerce valued at more than 1 billion euros ($1.2 billion) a day.

The announcement on Wednesday represents a high-level political blessing to the investment agreement, which will also cover environmental sustainability. Both sides plan to put the finishing touches on it over the coming months.

Human Rights
The accord will then need the approval of the European Parliament, where some voices have expressed objections as a result of alleged human-rights violations in China. The deal includes Chinese pledges on labor standards meant to address such concerns, including in relation to ratification of related United Nations-backed conventions, according to EU officials, who asked not to be identified because of the continuing preparations.

“It’s not a given that the EU Parliament will give its consent,” Reinhard Buetikofer, a German Green member of the assembly, told Bloomberg Television on Tuesday. “We’ll give it a tough scrutiny.”

The incoming U.S. administration has also signaled reservations, at least about the timing of the agreement. Jake Sullivan, national security adviser to President-elect Joe Biden, on Dec. 22 urged “early consultations with our European partners on our common concerns about China’s economic practices.”

The developments highlight global cross-currents after Trump shook the post-war system over the past four years by sidelining the World Trade Organization, starting a tariff war against China and hitting or threatening U.S. allies in Europe with controversial import duties.

When the Trump administration in January 2020 struck a first-phase commercial accord with China that eased their economically damaging fight, the EU criticized the deal as a “managed-trade outcome” that might itself violate WTO rules and merit a legal challenge.

Deal Highlights
Following are some of the Chinese concessions to European investors in the agreement, according to an EU official who spoke on the condition of anonymity:
  • Chinese market opening: improved access across industries including air-transport services, where joint-venture requirements for computer-reservation systems are being removed, and new opportunities in sectors including clean vehicles, cloud services, financial services and health
  • Chinese state-owned enterprises: non-discrimination commitment when SOEs are buyers of services
  • Chinese subsidies: enhanced transparency, notably for services
  • Chinese forced technology transfers: prohibited
While the accord largely commits the EU to maintain its relative openness to Chinese investors, according to the European official, the deal offers greater access for them to the bloc’s:
  • energy wholesale and retail markets (but excluding trading platforms)
  • renewable-energy markets (with a 5% cap at the level of EU countries and a reciprocity mechanism)
 

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China Blocks U.S. Government’s $332 Million Sale of Hong Kong Luxury Apartments​

Transaction can’t be completed without written consent of Chinese government, buyer says it has been told by authorities

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The U.S. government’s planned $332 million sale of an exclusive property in Hong Kong was thrown into doubt by the Chinese government, which has determined that the transaction needs its approval.

In September, the U.S. reached a deal to sell a residential compound for consulate staff to Hang Lung Properties Ltd. , a Hong Kong real-estate developer. The scenic property, in a high-end neighborhood called Shouson Hill, includes six low-rise buildings with 26 apartments and a rooftop swimming pool.

A representative of the U.S. Consulate in Hong Kong previously said the sale of the Shouson Hill compound was purely the result of a business decision, made as part of a global reinvestment program by the State Department.
 

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EU and China Seal Investment Agreement to Open Chinese Market​

  • Long-sought pact marks major economic, political win for both
  • Deal highlights deepening of European, Chinese economic ties
The European Union and China announced the political approval of a long-sought agreement to open the Chinese market further to EU investors, marking an economic victory for both sides.

The breakthrough in negotiations on an EU-China investment accord signals the bloc’s determination to focus on economic opportunities in Asia even amid criticism of Beijing’s record on human rights. The accord could enter into force in early 2022, according to EU officials.

The deal, in the works since 2013, is also a salvo against the “America First” challenge to the multilateral order by outgoing President Donald Trump. The EU has lambasted Trump’s confrontational tactics toward China, urging engagement with Beijing in a bid to strengthen global rules.

“We are open for business but we are attached to reciprocity, level playing field & values,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in a post on Twitter on Wednesday. “Today, the EU & China concluded in principle negotiations on an investment agreement.”

Market Access
For the 27-nation EU, the pact expands access to the Chinese market for foreign investors in industries ranging from cars to telecommunications. Furthermore, the agreement tackles underlying Chinese policies deemed by Europe and the U.S. to be market-distorting: industrial subsidies, state control of enterprises and forced technology transfers.

For China, the accord bolsters the country’s claim to be a mainstream geopolitical force and may limit risks resulting from a tougher EU stance on Chinese investments in Europe. It also strengthens Beijing’s longstanding call for the start of negotiations on a free-trade pact with the EU, which has insisted on an investment deal first.

China ranked as the EU’s second-largest trade partner in 2019 (behind the U.S.), with two-way goods commerce valued at more than 1 billion euros ($1.2 billion) a day.

The announcement on Wednesday represents a high-level political blessing to the investment agreement, which will also cover environmental sustainability. Both sides plan to put the finishing touches on it over the coming months.

Human Rights
The accord will then need the approval of the European Parliament, where some voices have expressed objections as a result of alleged human-rights violations in China. The deal includes Chinese pledges on labor standards meant to address such concerns, including in relation to ratification of related United Nations-backed conventions, according to EU officials, who asked not to be identified because of the continuing preparations.

“It’s not a given that the EU Parliament will give its consent,” Reinhard Buetikofer, a German Green member of the assembly, told Bloomberg Television on Tuesday. “We’ll give it a tough scrutiny.”

The incoming U.S. administration has also signaled reservations, at least about the timing of the agreement. Jake Sullivan, national security adviser to President-elect Joe Biden, on Dec. 22 urged “early consultations with our European partners on our common concerns about China’s economic practices.”

The developments highlight global cross-currents after Trump shook the post-war system over the past four years by sidelining the World Trade Organization, starting a tariff war against China and hitting or threatening U.S. allies in Europe with controversial import duties.

When the Trump administration in January 2020 struck a first-phase commercial accord with China that eased their economically damaging fight, the EU criticized the deal as a “managed-trade outcome” that might itself violate WTO rules and merit a legal challenge.

Deal Highlights
Following are some of the Chinese concessions to European investors in the agreement, according to an EU official who spoke on the condition of anonymity:
  • Chinese market opening: improved access across industries including air-transport services, where joint-venture requirements for computer-reservation systems are being removed, and new opportunities in sectors including clean vehicles, cloud services, financial services and health
  • Chinese state-owned enterprises: non-discrimination commitment when SOEs are buyers of services
  • Chinese subsidies: enhanced transparency, notably for services
  • Chinese forced technology transfers: prohibited
While the accord largely commits the EU to maintain its relative openness to Chinese investors, according to the European official, the deal offers greater access for them to the bloc’s:
  • energy wholesale and retail markets (but excluding trading platforms)
  • renewable-energy markets (with a 5% cap at the level of EU countries and a reciprocity mechanism)
Cursory reading suggests that EU got a much better deal than what China got. How does China gain from this? It seems more of a geopolitical deal with China extending its influence in EU rather than an economic one.
 

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The China-EU Investment Deal Is a Mistake​

For the sake of an agreement with Beijing, the EU has snubbed the incoming Biden administration and damaged the transatlantic cause.

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Hi Crang,

Merkel really deliver for Europe, she will be retiring next year and want the deal done ASAP. I and everybody here knows that Trumphism and America first is here to stay, by signing this deal, Europe had become a Third bloc with influence rather than being vassal of the US. She really is the backbone of Europe.
 
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NiuBiDaRen

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Hi Crang,

Merkel really deliver for Europe, she will be retiring next year and want the deal done ASAP. I and everybody here knows that Trumphism and America first is here to stay, by signing this deal, Europe had become a Third bloc with influence rather than being vassal of the US. She really is the backbone of Europe.
Not really, she delivers for Germany (at the expense of Mediterranean countries) and also delivers for China because of German-Chinese economic ties. Merkel CCP spy confirmed.
 
Lol, sorry for that...if this right wing narrative was...right, builders, factory workers, miners, farmers etc were supposed to be millionaires. But in real capitalist world, millionaires hate sweating ;) they get others to do it for them
You are looking at extremes and failing to see the whole pictures. The vast majority of millionaires in the US are composed of hard working professionals or small businesses owners that managed to save and accumulate wealth over time.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Cursory reading suggests that EU got a much better deal than what China got. How does China gain from this? It seems more of a geopolitical deal with China extending its influence in EU rather than an economic one.
I mean first it attaches EU more to China and makes EU less likely to gang up with USA on China. Since EU's interests in China are only to grow more and more with how fast China is growing. I assume EU has to shut up more now when China buys ports, chemical companies, tech companies in EU since EU is also expanding operations in China.

Also helps sell Huawei 5G.

Also helps Chinese companies get more competitive. Tesla was let into China because of the competition it provided to laggard Chinese NEV companies who often rode on state subsidies. I guess China is now at the value-add pursuing stage, and believes companies should pursue more value-addedness 创新。That's like the new economic strategy together with dual circulation. For example, SCANIA was allowed to purchase a Chinese truckmaking operation wholesale in China when it couldn't in the past. I'm not sure if this example is tied to the investment deal, but the spirit is there. China has a couple of truck manufacturing companies, but I don't think any of them manufacture trucks as good as SCANIA, which I believe is the world leader. The Chinese truckmaking companies usually make more economical trucks, but at the cost of reliability and quality. And since Chinese economy is maturing, there is more demand for higher quality trucks. Introduction of Scania helps keep local companies on their toes. After all, you don't want China to be a low-cost factory forever. Maybe one day soon China can export trucks to Europe instead of relying on domestic sales only. The investment deal allows these kinds of takeovers M&As and provides competition to Chinese companies to keep them on their toes. I think you want Chinese companies to be globally competitive and not just competitive locally.

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