Chinese Economics Thread

[localizer]

You've made good points at your latest comments, these things are concerning me too as an observer. As for the last, no this isn't how it works. If it worked like that humanity would have stayed in caves. Original revolutionaries do not hope to get rich. I hope that a truly revolutionary faction in CCP still exists. The critical turn that PRC will face is when the productive forces will mature, and the GDP growing spree ends, which is near, probably in a decade. The dillemma will be real and harsh. "Are we going to western style of plutocracy and growth stagnation or pave the way of a new collective mode of prosperity?" I am optimistic

I though it is the other way around take the money in form of capital gain tax and progressive tax but leave the man alone to make money. Chinese taxation system is unfair I know they don't have capital gain tax or property tax on real estate Not sure about other asset They need to change that and redistribute the income from the tax to subsidized housing for the poor and improve health care system for the poor . There is nothing wrong with being rich but China need a strong government to redistribute the wealth. I don't agree with socialism it kill the enterpreuneur spirit . China should learn from history and protect the legitimate wealth from the merchant class from arbitrary seizure.

In the end, I feel like China is a place where blanket free market policies probably won't work. The social and economic situation is a frankenstein. There's nothing natural about China's last hundred years.

-Overpopulation
-huge retiring population supported by few kids
-Lots of ignoramuses, especially in the older generation from the Mao days
-Inferiority complex/white worship

China obviously can't open the internet which is dominated by professional propagandists.
There's no more land for expansion of capitalism


China probably have to stick to current management system and micromanage everything until people get more educated.

 

[gadgetcool5]

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Great, they are now setting up to even ban Chinese TVs probably, and eventually try to force every European, Latin American, Middle Eastern country to do the same.

What's next? WTF is China going to do about this? Just sit there while every single tech product is banned? Probably Chinese automobiles will be banned before they can even start competing en mass with Toyota or GM or VW. This is a joke.

They are trying to turn China into 1990s Iraq.

I'm telling you guys man, this is just the beginning. The West will use every tool in its arsenal to attack China. Intellectual, moral, economic, military, soft power, hard power, you name it. It will not stop until China is Iraq/North Korea and the entire world is convinced Chinese people have horns sprouting out of their heads. This if it does not militarily attack China. You can reply to me and make arguments against my points and circle jerk amongst yourselves but you can't stop this oncoming train. And it'll hurt.

I plead with China, I beg China, to improve relations with the West before it is too late. China doesn't have to concede or give up a single thing. Simply not doing any new provocative actions beyond what it has already done would go a great deal. Simply maintaining and upholding its current positions and stances would improve relations with the West tremendously over the long run.

 

[KYli]

Free market policies without intervention always fail in the long run due to consolidation and accumulation of wealth. Crony capitalism and income inequality would slowly destroy the economy and breed populism. We are witnessing here in the US as frustrated white males can't make a living and turn to drugs and white supremacists to wage their grievances.

 

[AssassinsMace]

And the West would lose money from China not buying their products made from cheap labor from China. Western profit margins are slim in the first place selling domestically hence why selling to and making it in China is most important. Take it away and the US economy will go in the tanker.

 

[KYli]

I'm telling you guys man, this is just the beginning. The West will use every tool in its arsenal to attack China. Intellectual, moral, economic, military, soft power, hard power, you name it. It will not stop until China is Iraq/North Korea and the entire world is convinced Chinese people have horns sprouting out of their heads. This if it does not militarily attack China. You can reply to me and make arguments against my points and circle jerk amongst yourselves but you can't stop this oncoming train. And it'll hurt.

I plead with China, I beg China, to improve relations with the West before it is too late. China doesn't have to concede or give up a single thing. Simply not doing any new provocative actions beyond what it has already done would go a great deal. Simply maintaining and upholding its current positions and stances would improve relations with the West tremendously over the long run.

Basically, you are advocating China to capitulate and surrender. Sorry to say that the central government decided to take the high road and hammer Australia from left to the right to make an example out of it. If Australia and the West didn't get the message, then it is too bad.

 

[gadgetcool5]

Basically, you are advocating China to capitulate and surrender. Sorry to say that the central government decided to take the high road and hammer Australia from left to the right to make an example out of it. If Australia and the West didn't get the message, then it is too bad.

I said China doesn't have to concede on a single thing, and it's surrender? Why is everything surrender? If I said China should conquer the whole world and enslave all whites, you would say it's surrender. This is unreasonable. Why can't China even make one iota of movement towards improving relations with another country? Why is this so anathema?

 

[canniBUS]

I said China doesn't have to concede on a single thing, and it's surrender? Why is everything surrender? If I said China should conquer the whole world and enslave all whites, you would say it's surrender. This is unreasonable. Why can't China even make one iota of movement towards improving relations with another country? Why is this so anathema?

China should not conquer the world of course, it should destroy the western system of liberalism though. Liberalism, both classical, conservative, and progressive is driving climate change and leading our species towards extinction, it is in everyone's interest for the system to end.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

I said China doesn't have to concede on a single thing, and it's surrender? Why is everything surrender? If I said China should conquer the whole world and enslave all whites, you would say it's surrender. This is unreasonable. Why can't China even make one iota of movement towards improving relations with another country? Why is this so anathema?

You are barking at the wrong tree Why don't you ask the same question to the west Why they have to be antagonistic toward China? China didn't start the trade war or engage in propaganda war telling lie to besmirch and tar China without any proof.

 

[gadgetcool5]

You are barking at the wrong tree Why don't you ask the same question to the west Why they have to be antagonistic toward China? China didn't start the trade war or engage in propaganda war telling lie to besmirch and tar China without any proof.

I spend a huge amount of time bringing the Chinese perspective to the West and telling Westerners to be less antagonistic towards China. But I need some help from China's actions as well. Both sides need to calm down and think rationally, not emotionally, win-win cooperation benefits both sides.

 

[weig2000]

I'm telling you guys man, this is just the beginning. The West will use every tool in its arsenal to attack China. Intellectual, moral, economic, military, soft power, hard power, you name it. It will not stop until China is Iraq/North Korea and the entire world is convinced Chinese people have horns sprouting out of their heads. This if it does not militarily attack China. You can reply to me and make arguments against my points and circle jerk amongst yourselves but you can't stop this oncoming train. And it'll hurt.

I plead with China, I beg China, to improve relations with the West before it is too late. China doesn't have to concede or give up a single thing. Simply not doing any new provocative actions beyond what it has already done would go a great deal. Simply maintaining and upholding its current positions and stances would improve relations with the West tremendously over the long run.

Is there something wrong with this guy?

Can everyone stop responding to his non-sense and avoid polluting page after page in so many threads?