Chinese Economics Thread

hashtagpls

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Wall Street Journal... anti-China. How many times have we've seen stories about how certain sectors of China's economy are about to collapse. Over twenty years? I'm still waiting for the giant banking collapse predicted from way back then. Did they get all their information from Gordan Chang because he too makes twenty year old accusations and predictions and nothing happens. This is all what the Trump administration only can do since his self-proclaimed toughest action in US history against China has done little. Scare people from investing into China because it's so bad in order to get the world to send all their money to the US. That's when the US had all the power. Wall Street hates China because New York City is losing its status as financial capital of the world. It'll be relegated to just a regional capital because of China, there are more places in the world to move money around. I remember some Wall Street guy said Single's Day was a big lie because he calculated that it was impossible China could handle that many orders and he was using how many deliveries one of those scooters you see delivering packages could make in day as a factor which he concluded was impossible. When you take a look at Hollywood, the studios are gung ho on entering the China market. You know who hates it? The Hollywood trades... their version of the Wall Street Journal. Why would they care? It's the business of Hollywood. They hate it because it dilutes Hollywood in general. China is a foreign market where Hollywood has no skin in the game meaning they make no money reporting on the gossip of actors Americans never even heard of. Why does Great Britain promote the Royals around the world? Because they make money from it. I read that the British tourism industry revolved all around the Royals. The more people interested in them, the more money they make. Naturally they're going to be protective when their nest egg is being threatened and they're going to work against those that threatened it. Remember it was the Wall Street Journal that had that story about China spying on Trump's iPhone and experts laughed at their claims. Right now there's a story in the right-wing media like FOX News of how this Chinese female spy was dating two US mayors and a US congressman yet the FBI have made no charges after years when this happened. And you know who wrote this story that Axios exposed? It's a woman who claims she was raped in China and after Trump charged all Mexicans were rapists, this female left-leaning journalist said all Chinese were rapists. Conflict of interests? The West charges the Chinese media is biased and is displayed in their reporting. The Wall Street Journal got journalism media awards for their anti-China reporting that made other news outlets envious so they started reporting only anti-China stories because they want to get awards too. You could actually see the shift in their media in their reporting of China when it happened. Their media is full of bias contrary to what they claim.
ngl, but i'm going to be committing atrocities on all western journalists when the war comes.
 
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I remember we have sinodefence's own GDP estimation back then. How is it compared to this study?
Yeah, I created some. Generally in-line with my own forecast: 2028 if EXG rates remain unchanged, 2025 if EXG rates reach $1 USD= ¥6 RMB
Thing is, I'm betting that China's economy will in actuality exceed expectations in both my own in the JCER's forecasts; both of these forecasts were created months ago, but China's economy is actually doing much better than I would have expected when I created the SDF forecast (exports, manufacturing, FDI, consumption are through the roof).
 
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Xi Jinping was only expecting doubling of the Chinese economy by 2035
@Crang @daifo

JCER's forecast probably includes inflation. Non-inflation-adjusted, China's Nominal GDP will be ~$45 trillion by 2035, in 2035 dollar terms, by my own estimation. If inflation-adjusted, nominal GDP is $35 trillion in 2020 dollar terms.
 

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"Listing venue doesn't really matter. For the sake of prudence, we just buy the same companies in the Hong Kong market. The shift is quite easy."

Fund managers say U.S. and Hong Kong-listed shares are completely fungible, with little price difference or cost.

Still, in a worst-case scenario, a large exodus of Chinese companies would affect investors and reduce competitiveness of the U.S. capital markets, a lawyer who works with an ADR depositary said on condition of anonymity.

"If you take away prominent successful companies from U.S. exchanges, it will make London or Hong Kong or both stronger and will create a perception that now there are possibly better choices than U.S. exchanges."
 

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"Listing venue doesn't really matter. For the sake of prudence, we just buy the same companies in the Hong Kong market. The shift is quite easy."

Fund managers say U.S. and Hong Kong-listed shares are completely fungible, with little price difference or cost.

Still, in a worst-case scenario, a large exodus of Chinese companies would affect investors and reduce competitiveness of the U.S. capital markets, a lawyer who works with an ADR depositary said on condition of anonymity.

"If you take away prominent successful companies from U.S. exchanges, it will make London or Hong Kong or both stronger and will create a perception that now there are possibly better choices than U.S. exchanges."

Trump is digging a massive pothole for the Bidenmobile. If he can’t have the presidency, he can still get a huge laugh from Biden falling in.
 
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