Chinese Economics Thread

Maggern

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Re: China is rebalancing her economy from exports to domestic demand

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"China Economy: Trade, Rebalancing, Exchange Rate, And Bubble Warning
Zarathustra W., Also Sprach Analyst | Apr. 11, 2011, 8:24 PM

This is something that I don’t fully understand: as China reported the first quarterly trade deficit on Sunday, some interpreted that as a sign of rebalancing of the economy. The reality is that the March trade balance was actually a surplus, rather than a deficit as market expected previously. Rebalancing? I still think we would need some more time to judge, and political pressure to allow Chinese Yuan to appreciate will continue to be high. (article continues)"

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My post in the comment section (with China Lee pseudonym):

"This is something that I don’t fully understand: as China reported the first quarterly trade deficit on Sunday, some interpreted that as a sign of rebalancing of the economy. The reality is that the March trade balance was actually a surplus, rather than a deficit as market expected previously. Rebalancing?"

China's economy is clearly being rebalanced, because the trade surplus as a percentage of China's economy has dropped significantly. In 2010, China's current account balance was $272.5 billion surplus (see
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). This represents a mere 4.63% trade surplus in China's US$5.88 trillion economy.

In contrast, China had a trade surplus of $290 billion in 2008 (see
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). In 2008, China's GDP was US$4.52 trillion (see
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). This represented, in 2008, a whopping 6.42% trade surplus.

In conclusion, from 2008 to 2010, China's trade surplus as a percentage of its economy has shrunk from 6.42% to 4.63%. This is undeniable proof that the Chinese economy is moving away from exports and becoming more reliant on domestic demand.

Surely the correlation of a world-wide financial crisis (especially in China's export markets) in 2008-2010 could be a more valid reason for dropping importance of exports. I remember reading in People's Daily in 2009 that Guangdong (the most export-oriented province) authorities triumphantly announced the rural economy was growing faster than the urban. Could be the result of good policies or again a correlation by the crash in the export markets...

I'm not denying China is now less reliant on exports, because they are, as your numbers clearly show. I'm just saying they could bounce back once export markets are up and running again. In the meantime, most of the growth in China's economy will be from domestic sources.
 
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Spartan95

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Re: China is rebalancing her economy from exports to domestic demand

My post in the comment section (with China Lee pseudonym):

"This is something that I don’t fully understand: as China reported the first quarterly trade deficit on Sunday, some interpreted that as a sign of rebalancing of the economy. The reality is that the March trade balance was actually a surplus, rather than a deficit as market expected previously. Rebalancing?"

China's economy is clearly being rebalanced, because the trade surplus as a percentage of China's economy has dropped significantly. In 2010, China's current account balance was $272.5 billion surplus (see
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). This represents a mere 4.63% trade surplus in China's US$5.88 trillion economy.

In contrast, China had a trade surplus of $290 billion in 2008 (see
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). In 2008, China's GDP was US$4.52 trillion (see
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). This represented, in 2008, a whopping 6.42% trade surplus.

In conclusion, from 2008 to 2010, China's trade surplus as a percentage of its economy has shrunk from 6.42% to 4.63%. This is undeniable proof that the Chinese economy is moving away from exports and becoming more reliant on domestic demand.

While there are certainly efforts to restructure the PRC economy away from being too reliant on exports, I would think it is still early days for the world's 2nd largest economy to make significant headway in that area.

With regard to the shrinking trade surplus, if you look at the amount of imports that goes into the PRC year on year for the past 3 decades, it will provide a different perspective on the trade surplus. As an example, PRC was practically self-reliant on energy in the 70s. Now, it is now 1 of the world's largest importer of energy (i.e., oil and gas).
 

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Cumulative greenhouse gas emissions, who's responsible for the clean-up?

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Cumulative Emissions (millions of tons): Using totals from the mid-19th century up to the present day, the U.S. and E.U. far surpass other countries in their historical contribution to global warming. The original 1992 UN climate change convention in Rio de Janeiro, which paved the way for the Kyoto Protocol of 1997, called for developed nations to take the lead in cutting emissions.

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Per Capita Emissions (tons per person): Compared to industrialized countries, less developed nations contribute relatively little to global emissions. But some developing countries such as India, with the world’s second highest population and rapid economic growth, could see sharp per-person emissions increases.
 

Martian

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Hot cars at Shanghai International Auto Show

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A model poses beside the Porsche Hybrid during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition at Shanghai New International Expo Center on April 19, 2011 in Shanghai, China. The 14th Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition (Auto Shanghai 2011) will be held from April 21 to 28 with the theme of 'Innovation For Tomorrow'. About 2,000 carmakers and parts providers from 20 countries are due to showcase 1,100 car models, 75 of which makes their world premieres in the auto show. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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A model poses next to the Dongfeng EJ02 during the opening day of the Shanghai Auto Show April 19, 2011. (Reuters/Aly Song)

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Models sit on a Subaru's XV concept car to pose for photographers at Subaru presentation section on the press day at the Shanghai International Auto Show Tuesday, April 19, 2011 in Shanghai, China. (AP Photo)

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A model poses beside the Spyker C8 Aileron during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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A model poses beside the Porsche sport car during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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A model at Toyota G's Reiz concept car during Toyota presentation on the press day at the Shanghai International Auto Show Tueseday, April 19, 2011 in Shanghai, China. (AP Photo/Eugene Hoshiko)

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Two models pose beside the Maserati GT MC Stradale during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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A model stands beside the Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 sport car during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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A model stands beside the Bentley Mulsonne during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

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A model stands beside the Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 sport car during the media day of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)
 

Martian

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Chinese leaders meet largest and most senior U.S. Senate delegation

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Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping (5th L, front) meets with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his delegation, in Beijing, capital of China, April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Pang Xinglei)

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"Largest US senatorial delegation in China

The largest and most senior U.S. congressional delegation to set foot in China, led by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, have now started their tour outside Beijing, as part of the group's week-long visit.

The 10-senator delegation represent more than a third of the US population.

The senators have taken the high-speed train to Tianjin, and have visited a clean energy company in Hebei."

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Wu Bangguo (3rd R, front), chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPC) of China, meets with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (4th L, front), in Beijing, capital of China, April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Pang Xinglei)

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"Chinese leaders meet U.S. Senate delegation
English.news.cn 2011-04-22 00:25:44

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Wu Bangguo (R, front), chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPC) of China, meets with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (L, front), in Beijing, capital of China, April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Pang Xinglei)

BEIJING, April 21 (Xinhua) -- China's top legislator Wu Bangguo on Thursday called for more parliamentary exchanges between China and the United States, saying that dialogue and communication could help improve mutual trust.

Wu, chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPC), made the remarks when meeting with a delegation of senior U.S. Senators in Beijing.

Wu said the NPC has established a regular exchange mechanism with the U.S. side, which has already played a positive role in developing Sino-American relations.

"I hope the two sides could keep improving dialogue and communication to continue to help enhance mutual trust and cooperation between China and the United States," Wu said.

Talking about bilateral relations, Wu stressed that China and the United States share many more common interests than differences.

China will work with the United States to actively implement the consensus reached between President Hu Jintao and President Barack Obama, and hopes that the two countries could take each other's key concerns into consideration, and foster cooperation and promote friendship to a higher level, Wu said.

The delegation was led by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and consisted of nine other senators.

Reid said the United States and China share similar views on many significant issues, and the U.S. Senate hopes to work with the NPC to push forward the bilateral cooperation in fields such as trade, environment and clean energy.


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Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping (R) meets with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, in Beijing, capital of China, April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Pang Xinglei)

Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping also met with the delegation on Thursday.

China-U.S. relations cannot develop without the participation and support from the U.S. congress, Xi said.

Xi said he hopes the U.S. Senators will actively promote and support bilateral exchanges and cooperation, and play constructive roles in promoting the cooperative partnership between the two countries.


Xi said China and the United States are building a cooperative partnership based on mutual respect and mutual benefit. China hopes to improve political trust with the United States, promote mutually beneficial cooperation and improve coordination in international affairs.

Xi also briefed the U.S. Senators on China's 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-2015), calling on the two sides to seize the opportunities to expand mutual investment, cement cooperation in clean energy and infrastructure construction and further improve economic and trade cooperation.

He also said he hopes that the two countries could overcome the interference of protectionism and properly resolve trade disputes through consultation on an equal footing.

China is the United States' second largest trading partner and its third largest export market with bilateral trade totaling 38.534 billion U.S. dollars in 2010, according to China's Commerce Ministry.

Reid said the cooperation between the United States and China has contributed to world peace, stability and prosperity and the U.S. Senate will make unremitting efforts to promote U.S.-China relations.

Lu Yongxiang, vice chairman of the NPC Standing Committee, also met the delegation on Thursday.

On Thursday morning, the delegation took the high-speed train to Tianjin and visited a clean energy company in Langfang of Hebei Province.

The week-long tour will also take the delegation to the cities of Chengdu and Xi'an in west China."

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On Thursday morning, the largest and most senior U.S. Senatorial delegation rode a Chinese Railway High-speed train (like the CRH pictured above) to Tianjin.
 
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Martian

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HTC Thunderbolt Rivals Apple iPhone 4 in Smartphone Wars

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"HTC Thunderbolt Rivals Apple iPhone 4 in Smartphone Wars
Published April 20, 2011 | NewsCore

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The fast HTC Thunderbolt, the newest 4G smartphone from Verizon.

Taiwanese handset manufacturer HTC was stealing some of Apple's thunder as more smartphone users opted for the speedier 4G advantage, the New York Post reported Wednesday.

The HTC Thunderbolt, the first phone to run on Verizon Wireless' faster 4G long-term evolution (LTE) network, briefly overtook the red-hot iPhone in sales at Verizon stores in the U.S. late last month, according to a Wall Street research firm.

The Thunderbolt, which runs Google's Android software, appeared to be a favorite of those looking for Wi-Fi-like speeds on their smartphones, while Verizon's iPhone 4 still uses the dated 3G code division multiple access technology.

The popularity of LTE could spell trouble for Apple as smartphone customers look for something new. New York-based ITG Investment Research estimated that sales of Verizon's iPhone 4, available since Feb. 10, would come in at two million for the quarter.

As of late March, the HTC Thunderbolt "surpassed the iPhone as the top-selling phone at Verizon," ITG said in a report. Verizon declined to comment.

Another report this week from Social Nuggets, a firm that measures sentiment across the Internet, said the Thunderbolt rose to the No. 1 spot from No. 8 on its smartphone index. The iPhone 4 dropped from No. 6 to No. 10.


One analyst said Tuesday that Apple diverted more of its resources to beefing up its iPad dominance with the launch of an iPad 2 than it did to developing an iPhone 5. Now, there is talk that a new iPhone might not be ready until as late as next year."
 

flyzies

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So if i am reading this right, it means China will overtake the US to be the world's largest economy by 2016....as by then China will be producing 18% of global economic output.

The only reason why US economy will be largeer than China in total GDP output is because of the lower value of RMB when comparted to US dollar, as GDP output is measured is US dollars.

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China to lead world economy
Tim Colebatch, Canberra


CHINA is about to overtake the United States as the world's biggest economy, creating profound changes in the balance of global power.

In forecasts inserted quietly on its website in recent days, the International Monetary Fund has projected that, by 2016, China will overtake the US in real economic output - the first time in the modern era that any country has done so.

Economic historian Angus Maddison estimated that the Soviet Union at its peak produced only a third as many goods and services as the US; Japan's economy at its peak was still less than half the size of the US economy.
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China's ascension has been startlingly different, in speed and size. If it grows at anything like the 10 per cent rate it has averaged since 1980, its economy will be far bigger than that of the US within a generation.

Australian National University professor of strategic studies Hugh White said the looming end of US economic dominance marked a turning point for the world, and had serious implications for Australia.

''For us, it is the end of a very long cycle in which both our great allies, first Britain, then the United States, have been the strongest economy in the world and the greatest military power,'' Professor White said.

''For the first time, the greatest economic power in the world will not be our close ally.

''One issue is whether we will have to accommodate an ambitious, growing China that behaves reasonably well, or face an aggressive China that operates without such constraints. Another is how the US responds to China's growing military strength.''

Professor White said that while the US had confronted more-hostile enemies before - Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union - it had never had to contend with a rival that matched it in economic strength.

He said this would pose a ''very tough strategic choice'' for Australia as to whether or not to back the US in a conflict.

China's growth has been unprecedented. In 1980, when its economic reforms were just starting, the IMF estimates the US produced more than 10 times as many goods and services. Even 10 years ago, when China overtook Japan to become the world's second-biggest economy, the US still produced three times as much.

But since then China's share of global output has doubled, while that of the US has shrunk rapidly. From 25 per cent of global output in 1986, the US share has shrunk to less than 20 per cent and a projected 17.8 per cent by 2016.

China produced just 2.2 per cent of the world's output in 1980, but this rose to 7 per cent by 2000, 14 per cent now, and is projected to top 18 per cent by 2016.

By 2016, the IMF estimates, China will be producing more in a fortnight than it did in a year when the reforms began. Over that period, its output would have risen to 30 times its starting level; US output would have risen to 2.7 times its 1980 level.

The US would still be the world's biggest market. If China keeps its currency heavily undervalued, as it is now, the IMF projects that, in nominal terms, by 2016 the US economy will still be two-thirds larger than China's.

But this gap would simply reflect currency values. Factor in relative prices, and China's real output of goods and services would be the world's biggest.

The IMF assumes that China will grow at 9.5 per cent a year over the coming decade, a tad slower than previously, while US

growth would accelerate from an average of 2.1 per cent over the noughties to 2.75 per cent in the new decade.

Australia is assumed to average growth of 3.25 per cent, and more or less maintain its place in the world economy, which has changed remarkably little over the past century.

On Professor Maddison's estimates, Australia in 1913 produced 1.02 per cent of the world's output. On the IMF's figures, this edged up to 1.34 per cent in 1981, is 1.19 per cent now, and will shrink further to 1.11 per cent by 2016.

This reflects the rapid growth not only of China, but developing countries as a whole. In 1990 they produced just 31 per cent of the world's output, but by 2010 this had risen to almost 48 per cent, and by 2013 most of the globe's output would come from low- and middle-income countries.

India's growth is projected to continue at more than 8 per cent a year. It is on track to overtake Japan next year to become the world's third-biggest economy in real output.

The relative weight of Japan and the European Union is declining rapidly. On IMF projections, by 2016 Japan would account for just 5 per cent of global output, down from 10 per cent a generation earlier, while China and the US would have overtaken the EU's output.
 

Martian

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China Securities Journal, NASDAQ sign MOU for sharing information service

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"China Securities Journal, NASDAQ sign MOU for sharing information service
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Lin Chen (C), publisher and chairman of China Securities Journal Limited Company (CSJ), poses with other representatives after CSJ signed a memorandum with NASDAQ OMX in New York, the United States, on April 21, 2011. CSJ and NASDAQ OMX Group Corporate Services (NASDAQ), Inc. signed a Memorandum of Understanding on Thursday that focuses on sharing market and database information. (Xinhua/Wu Kaixiang)

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Representatives of China Securities Journal Limited Company (CSJ) can be seen on the screen outside NASDAQ in New York, the United States, on April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Wu Kaixiang)

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Representatives of China Securities Journal Limited Company (CSJ) can be seen on the screen outside NASDAQ in New York, the United States, on April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Wu Kaixiang)

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Lin Chen (C), publisher and chairman of China Securities Journal Limited Company (CSJ), attends the bell ceremony after CSJ signed a memorandum with NASDAQ OMX in New York, the United States, on April 21, 2011. (Xinhua/Wu Kaixiang)
 

Martian

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ASUS Eee Pad Transformer goes on sale in US, immediately sells out at Amazon

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"ASUS Eee Pad Transformer goes on sale in US, immediately sells out at Amazon
By Vlad Savov
posted Apr 26th 2011 4:56AM
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ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Tablet

The US had to wait for its
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launch a little longer than the rest of the world, but it's finally gotten its wish today and consumers' reaction seems to have been nothing short of voracious. Amazon's order page for the
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Android 3.0 tablet appears to have gone from "in stock" to "out of stock" within mere minutes, while Target -- the supplier fulfilling orders on behalf of Amazon -- also lists the Transformer as presently unavailable. ASUS' own Where To Buy page leads us to a bunch of dead ends as well, with Best Buy being the only retailer we can currently find with stock in the US. We can't say for sure whether we're looking at overwhelming demand or just limited supply, but it's hard to argue with ASUS' excellent value proposition here: a 10-inch IPS display, a dual-core SOC and a feature-rich tablet OS all for less than four Benjamins. You'll just need to be quick on the trigger if you want one.

[Thanks, Noah]

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Source: Amazon, Best Buy, ASUS (Where To Buy)"
 
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