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Schumacher

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Re: 40% pay increase for China's migrant laborers in 2010

...........The bottom line: Over the next decade the inflationary impact of ever-higher wages throughout Chinese industry will raise prices around the world.
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Indeed, this is an important point missed by many half-baked economic commentators out there when talking about inflation, rising property prices and other issues in China which is largely driven by rising wages caused by an economy running at nearly full employment.
In certain economies which designed their stimulus/monetary policies to help the corporate fat cats first, they actually consider it a good thing that their policies have not caused wages, or employment, to rise because it shows a 'lack of inflation'. So what you have is inflation in food and gas but deflation in wages, brilliant.
 

delft

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The situation is particularly dire for the US and the UK. They import a lot of Chinese products and a lot oil, both rising in price and they already export much less than the import. IronsightSniper was a few days ago spending trillions of dollars on F-22's and air borne lasers and other toys but this is likely to cause immense inflation and make his plans even more absurd than they already were.
 

Martian

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China to invest $200bn in low-cost homes to curb prices

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"China to invest $200bn in low-cost homes to curb prices
9 March 2011 Last updated at 03:17 ET
Chris Hogg BBC News, Shanghai

China will build 10 million low-cost homes this year at a cost of $200bn (£124bn), a government minister has said.

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China's economic success has seen a huge spike in demand for property pushing up prices.

The move comes as soaring home prices spur complaints about affordability.

In January, prices of new homes rose in 68 of the 70 cities monitored by the government compared to a year earlier.

The spending is a part of a commitment to construct 36 million low-cost homes over the next five years.

'Postpone purchases'

The huge spike in property prices has also raised concerns about a property bubble being formed.

Authorities are worried that if not controlled, speculators could drive prices even higher.

"One of the key points we are trying to control, is to postpone purchases by those consumers who don't need to settle down and buy houses urgently," Deputy Housing Minister Qi Ji said.

The regulators have already introduced measures to that effect. They include raising down payment requirements and curbing lending on purchase of second homes.

Cities like Shanghai and Chongqing have imposed a property tax to reduce profits for sellers.

Analysis

It's getting harder and harder for families in Chinese cities to buy even a small apartment. The government's responded with measures to try to curb speculation, making it more expensive to buy second homes and telling local governments to set price targets.

Qi Ji, a housing minister, said these price curbs were an attempt to direct the limited supply of housing towards those who needed it most.

Property developers are already complaining that the plans to build so many affordable homes will hit their profits. Ten million units would be more than half the number of new homes built here last year."
 
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Martian

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China travelers most valuable: report

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"Big-spending Chinese tourists" are welcomed worldwide

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"China travellers most valuable: report
16:22 AEST Wed Mar 9 2011
Jessica Marszalek

Big-spending Chinese tourists have surpassed the United Kingdom as Australia's most valuable tourism market.

Tourism Research Australia's latest international visitor survey shows a five per cent boost in international visitors last year, and a four per cent boost in their spending.

Almost 5,441,000 people came to Australia in 2010 and spent $18 billion on their trips.

In terms of total goods and services, they contributed $24 billion.

And although most visitors came from New Zealand (1,053,901), the Chinese emerged as Australia's most economically valuable market, eclipsing the UK.

Chinese travellers, who represented the fourth largest visitor numbers at 431,369, poured $3.1 billion into the economy.

The UK contributed $2.9 billion, and New Zealand $2 billion.


The total economic value was an increase of 2.9 per cent on 2009, the report said.

Most visitors came for a holiday or to visit family and friends.

Other popular reasons were for business, education and to work."
 

Martian

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It’s China’s Year On The 2011 Forbes Billionaires List

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Tongzhou exemplifies China's economic boom, which has created widespread prosperity and many billionaires.

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"It’s China’s Year On The 2011 Forbes Billionaires List
by Russell Flannery
Mar. 10 2011 - 11:23 am

China, the world’s most populous nation, isn’t the country with the most billionaires on this year’s Forbes Billionaires List. It’s home to only 115 compared to 413 for the United States.

Yet in many respects, it’s China’s year when it comes to sizing up our latest list of the world’s richest. Many elements of China’s economic success story, one of the most remarkable global developments of our time and one that has stirred the world’s attention, if not worry, are highlighted and amplified.

For starters, after recently being anointed as the world’s second-largest economy, China this year has tightened its grip on the no. 2 spot in the ranks of the world’s billionaires. Its 115 is second only to the U.S. and well ahead of Russia’s 101, without even including Hong Kong which is now part of China.

Yet perhaps more noteworthy is the speed of China’s rise. This year’s group of 115 mainland members compares with only 64 last year. The U.S. total, by contrast, rose by only 10 people on the new list, to 413 from 403 in 2009. China has more new members than any other nation this year, and its number of new listees alone is almost equal to the total number of list members from India this year, new and returnees combined — 55.

The number of billionaires in China is growing so fast in part because of the country’s rapid economic growth. GDP increased by 10% last year, best among the world’s major economies.

Yet the big increase in Chinese members this year on a list as difficult to make as the Forbes Billionaires List likely isn’t the result of developments that occurred in only the past 12 months. It follows three decades of incremental market and economic liberalization in the Communist Party-run country that have given more protection to private enterprises, creating a sound base for entrepreneurs to seize opportunities and build on success.

For instance, China ranked no. 1 globally in IPOs last year, the latest milestone in two decades of reforms in its capital markets. As part of that performance, new listings at the Shenzhen Stock Exchange in the past year helped to land at least a dozen big shareholders and company founders on the new Forbes Billionaires List. That dozen new faces from just one stock exchange alone is larger than the entire increase in Billionaires List members this year from the U.S. — 10. China’s gains helped to push the Asia-Pacific region as a whole past Europe on this year’s list, with 332 billionaires compared with 300 from Europe.

The rise of China’s new no. 1 listee, search engine Baidu’s co-founder and chairman Robin Li, notably underscores the transformation of Chinese society by the Internet. When I first came to China in the mid-1980s, anyone dreaming of anything like today’s web and its influence – the country today has the world’s largest number of Internet users — would have been dismissed as a quack. Conveniences brought by the web have since transformed life for hundreds of millions of Chinese and promise more fortunes for entrepreneurs in the future.

Li’s emergence as no. 1 also symbolizes the ascent of a generation of internationally savvy, highly educated business leaders in China’s private sector. That’s a big change, too. Two decades ago, private companies as a whole had troubled recruiting locals who worried they were unstable relative to state companies.

Looking for insight into China’s increased global M&A? Expansion into green energy? Winners from its consumer boom? This year’s Forbes Billionaires List has many new faces and triumphs from a country, that while facing bumps and potholes, on the march. China may be no. 2, but our new list suggests that if its economic rivals are complacent, it won’t be there for long."
 

delft

Brigadier
The radio is talking of great damage in Japan due to the earth quake and tsunami. What is that going to mean for China?
 

Spartan95

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Re: 40% pay increase for China's migrant laborers in 2010

Excerpt from BusinessWeek: "The pay of the migrant laborers who fuel China's export industry rose by 40 percent in 2010, according to Credit Suisse's Tao. It will continue climbing 20 percent to 30 percent in each of the next three years as Chinese leaders pump up domestic demand."

Its a good thing that wages for migrant labourers are rising in PRC.

However, the downside is that with higher wages, manufacturing becomes less profitable in PRC. Hence, the PRC economy need to restructure towards other sectors of growth. Just as there few factories in Shanghai due to its high wages (relative to rest of PRC), it went into the financial sector to generate economic activity, so too will the rest of the country need to adjust accordingly.
 

Blitzo

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Re: 40% pay increase for China's migrant laborers in 2010

Its a good thing that wages for migrant labourers are rising in PRC.

However, the downside is that with higher wages, manufacturing becomes less profitable in PRC. Hence, the PRC economy need to restructure towards other sectors of growth. Just as there few factories in Shanghai due to its high wages (relative to rest of PRC), it went into the financial sector to generate economic activity, so too will the rest of the country need to adjust accordingly.

I think shifting growth to other areas will not be a problem -- the longer term challenge they face is to retain its manufacturing capabilities while also having higher end sources of growth.
 

delft

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Re: 40% pay increase for China's migrant laborers in 2010

Its a good thing that wages for migrant labourers are rising in PRC.

However, the downside is that with higher wages, manufacturing becomes less profitable in PRC. Hence, the PRC economy need to restructure towards other sectors of growth. Just as there few factories in Shanghai due to its high wages (relative to rest of PRC), it went into the financial sector to generate economic activity, so too will the rest of the country need to adjust accordingly.
I understand two things are happening. Because of the improvement of the railways more lower wage factories have moved inland because they can now depend on timely transport of raw materials and products and have lower land costs and wages. They also attract people who don't like to work on the coast far from their families. The low wage factories moved inland or to Vietnam, Indonesia or Banghladesh. The remaining coastal factories had to raise wages very significantly, if not 40%.
In this way the investment in the railways provide for China a return on investment even before the income from transport rolls in. An important railway line will be the connection from Kunming to Myanmar and the Indian Ocean to be completed in 2015.
There is the notion by some Western economists that the raising of the cost of Chinese products, food and crude oil together will start inflation on a much larger scale than Mr Bernanke intents and this would lead to a massive loss of value for the US$. I read this in a.o. The Daily Telegraph.
 
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AssassinsMace

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Most so-called alternative countries can't compete in many areas regardless how cheaper their labor may be. China not only manufactures, it scours the world for the resources to make it for foreign corporations. How many of these smaller countries can do that? Also foreign corporations don't have to build a factory in China to produce many of these products. They're already there. That's why some small business in the US that wants to produce an idea they have just has to hop on plane to China and show a prototype to a manufacturer and they'll give a cost to produce and that's it. Switching to another country is easier said than done.
 
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