Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Re: China is now the world's third most-popular destination
All this talk about real estate bubble and impending doom citing anecdotal empty apartment and hosuing is nothing but sourgrape of western press and you read too much of western press ideological propaganda' "Only my way is right and no one else"
Let talk fact to begin with most of those speculative house are bought with at least of 30% downpayment and most of them are self financing There is no such thing as zero downpayment in China .
The real estate related load only make small portion of Chinese bank portofolio. Some one estimate less than 20% Here is the number from Economist 2009 data
Most of the loan are directed to building infrastructure like road and rail line which are more social investment in nature.
Assuming even the worst condition that the bank went under with so much of reserve Goverment can easily recapitalized them like thhey have done before .
So no I don't buy the impending doom and gloom prediction
yes, China is taking some measures, but it's not enough. When you have that much credit growth (and this has been widely reported), that money has to go somewhere. It will either go in to real estate, stock market, commodity, food/energy or infrastructure projects. In fact in China, it's going to all of the above. You see inflation everywhere because of this tremendous credit growth. Funnily enough in America, even with this huge expansion in money supply, we actually have a credit contraction, because money is not flowing through the economy.
There are some serious problems in China's bank lending. The big SOEs and local governments are getting easy flow of money due to their connections with the banks. The banks are implicitly backed by the government, so they continue their bad lending in spite of official calls to stop lending as much. And a lot of local governments are just wasting money. My hometown in China is building a city wall and a moat. How can that be a good usage of money? So, a lot of those lending get wasted because the money come so easily
At the same time, small business are having trouble getting money from banks, so they get their money from savings and such. And they are so much money efficient in their growth.
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All this talk about real estate bubble and impending doom citing anecdotal empty apartment and hosuing is nothing but sourgrape of western press and you read too much of western press ideological propaganda' "Only my way is right and no one else"
Let talk fact to begin with most of those speculative house are bought with at least of 30% downpayment and most of them are self financing There is no such thing as zero downpayment in China .
The real estate related load only make small portion of Chinese bank portofolio. Some one estimate less than 20% Here is the number from Economist 2009 data
Prices would have to fall a long way to push borrowers “under water”, owing more than the value of their house. The average mortgage is for less than 50% of the value of a home, Ms Wang reckons. In Hong Kong, where regulators bar mortgages of more than 70% of a home’s value, prices fell by almost half in the three years after the Asian financial crisis, yet mortgage delinquencies peaked at 1.4%.
If mortgages did turn sour, how badly would China’s banks suffer? China Merchants Bank’s mortgage book grew by 70% in 2009. But mortgages still amounted to only 23% of its total loans. In China’s other big banks, the share is less than 20%. Loans to property developers account for another 8% or so, according to Mr Rothman.
Most of the loan are directed to building infrastructure like road and rail line which are more social investment in nature.
Assuming even the worst condition that the bank went under with so much of reserve Goverment can easily recapitalized them like thhey have done before .
So no I don't buy the impending doom and gloom prediction
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