Chinese Economics Thread

[Jura The idiot]

LOL funny to have a tiny fun club here, but I guess you need to tell
#10814 Gatekeeper, Today at 6:15 PM
this:

Jesus, Confucius, Maria, Buddha, Jaweh, Zoroaster, the Xi administration is going to sign an unequal treaty and after the signing will swiftly start negotiations towards a second unequal treaty. I really start to be angry with Xi Jinping, Li Keqiang and Liu He. This is not how you represent 1,4 billion people and their future - interests. Second, not necessary. They are repeating mistakes of Qing dynasty fools of 19th century.

 

[Appix]

LOL funny to have a tiny fun club here, but I guess you need to tell
#10814 Gatekeeper, Today at 6:15 PM
this:

Well, when the Chinese leadership is not guarding and fighting for the interest of Chinese people but selling them out when confronted with foreign agression they need to go. That's my only message. Xi has failed China when he sign this unequal treaty. And when he starts negotations about the second unequal treaty after the grandiose signing ceremony someone needs to replace him and swift before we start a second century of humilation with leaders that buckle under foreign agression. I have said numerous times it does not look good with the leg spreading to USA and I blame Xi and his administration.

 

[Chish]

Well, when the Chinese leadership is not guarding and fighting for the interest of Chinese people but selling them out when confronted with foreign agression they need to go. That's my only message. Xi has failed China when he sign this unequal treaty. And when he starts negotations about the second unequal treaty after the grandiose signing ceremony someone needs to replace him and swift before we start a second century of humilation with leaders that buckle under foreign agression. I have said numerous times it does not look good with the leg spreading to USA and I blame Xi and his administration.

Your comments show that you are more concerned with your hatred of Xi and his administration than basic economic/trade.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Jesus, Confucius, Maria, Buddha, Jaweh, Zoroaster, the Xi administration is going to sign an unequal treaty and after the signing will swiftly start negotiations towards a second unequal treaty. I really start to be angry with Xi Jinping, Li Keqiang and Liu He. This is not how you represent 1,4 billion people and their future - interests. Second, not necessary. They are repeating mistakes of Qing dynasty fools of 19th century.

Are you some CIA bot? Cus you've posted this same comment before, and then I asked you to substantiate what part of it was the problem, you couldn't do it, but continue to repeat that same empty complaint like some CIA bot sent to create disdain among Chinese people for their leaders. I can only reroute your parroted comment to where we last left off:

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-economics-thread.t3715/page-1078#post-582168
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-economics-thread.t3715/page-1079#post-582226
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-economics-thread.t3715/page-1079#post-582288

 

[Appix]

Your comments show that you are more concerned with your hatred of Xi and his administration than basic economic/trade.

No, I have no hatred for Xi as long they do not sign unequal treaties and they are at the point of doing exactly that. I hate leaders that are sell outs and Xi is buckling, gentleman. Open your eyes. I'm no troll, no CIA agent, I'm dead serious. Trump will fuck him over after the signing ceremony with pressure to start negotiations towards a second unequal treaty. Xi administration is looking increasingly weak towards USA. That's what I hate governments that don't stand their ground.

 

[manqiangrexue]

No, I have no hatred for Xi as long they do not sign unequal treaties and they are at the point of doing exactly that. I hate leaders that are sell outs and Xi is buckling, gentleman. Open your eyes. I'm no troll, no CIA agent, I'm dead serious. Trump will fuck him over after the signing ceremony with pressure to start negotiations towards a second unequal treaty. Xi administration is looking increasingly weak towards USA. That's what I hate governments that don't stand their ground.

If you're no troll, no CIA agent, then why do you try to incite hatred for China's leaders without firm reason? I gave you every chance with every comment to list the terms of the agreement and pick out which ones you think make this a bad deal for China and you haven't done it. I'm here to discuss economics and am willing to listen to your detailed reasoning but you've supplied none at all, just blind insults at the Chinese leadership. Every comment of yours is an empty meaningless copy of the others with no substance at all but just insults at President Xi. How can anyone conclude that you are not some troll/anti-China bot?

 

[Jura The idiot]

If you're no troll, no CIA agent, then why do you try to incite hatred for China's leaders without firm reason? I gave you every chance with every comment to list the terms of the agreement and pick out which ones you think make this a bad deal for China and you haven't done it. I'm here to discuss economics and am willing to listen to your detailed reasoning but you've supplied none at all, just blind insults at the Chinese leadership. Every comment of yours is an empty meaningless copy of the others with no substance at all but just insults at President Xi. How can anyone conclude that you are not some troll/anti-China bot?

he/she/it made a kinda strong pro-China post though
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#3624 Appix, Sunday at 7:51 PM

Hopefully Type 095 SSN will follow in the 2020's. They are needed with the Yellow Peril spreading as wildfire among the facists in Murica and their Anglo vassals. I heavily dislike Anglos (Australians, Americans, Brits) as Chinese. After all the misery since 1840's China need a good and strong military.

 

[vincent]

Well, when the Chinese leadership is not guarding and fighting for the interest of Chinese people but selling them out when confronted with foreign agression they need to go. That's my only message. Xi has failed China when he sign this unequal treaty. And when he starts negotations about the second unequal treaty after the grandiose signing ceremony someone needs to replace him and swift before we start a second century of humilation with leaders that buckle under foreign agression. I have said numerous times it does not look good with the leg spreading to USA and I blame Xi and his administration.

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a troll

According to Renmin University International Relations Institute vice-president and professor (中国人民大学国际关系学院副院长、教授翟东升), there were people in the Chinese government were ready to agree to all American’s demands so China will not be excluded from the trade agreements US was negotiating. They thought Chinese economy will collapse if China get excluded from the new trade deals. Xi Jinping put a stop to it and initiated the One Belt One Road program

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[AssassinsMace]

Great video explaining the truth over rare earths until they claim they can find alternatives from China. I wonder if this is to trick the citizens in their own countries. They will never beat China unless they violate human rights. Have people waste their lives being exposed to hazardous materials and getting paid next to nothing to produce rare earths is the only way they're going to beat China. Finding alternatives or recycling ain't going to be cheaper. Virtually all Western countries ship half of the garbage their countries produce to developing countries. Why? Because it's cheaper than recycling. The guy interviewed from Molycorp that owns Mountain Pass I believe doesn't even work there anymore because they went bankrupt again and the new owners I've seen interviewed on TV spoke of the truth of how the US can get rare earths from local sources. The US government will have to subsidize the US rare earth industry. Same goes with Europe. Normally when someone holds a monopoly as they charge that of China, it's because they want to keep prices artificially high so they can make a lot of money. China has been doing the opposite. If they processed their own rare earths so they aren't dependent on China, it would still be higher than the China price. If they're willing to pay more than ever, why aren't they doing that now? They said the same thing over outsourcing where they claim they are willing to pay more if it was made in the USA. Most rare earth elements can be found everywhere. They can find them at home and they can processed them at home... What's stopping them? They still want them cheap. The only way a private company can make a profit is to have their government subsidize it.

 

[Tam]

Great video explaining the truth over rare earths until they claim they can find alternatives from China. I wonder if this is to trick the citizens in their own countries. They will never beat China unless they violate human rights. Have people waste their lives being exposed to hazardous materials and getting paid next to nothing to produce rare earths is the only way they're going to beat China. Finding alternatives or recycling ain't going to be cheaper. Virtually all Western countries ship half of the garbage their countries produce to developing countries. Why? Because it's cheaper than recycling. The guy interviewed from Molycorp that owns Mountain Pass I believe doesn't even work there anymore because they went bankrupt again and the new owners I've seen interviewed on TV spoke of the truth of how the US can get rare earths from local sources. The US government will have to subsidize the US rare earth industry. Same goes with Europe. Normally when someone holds a monopoly as they charge that of China, it's because they want to keep prices artificially high so they can make a lot of money. China has been doing the opposite. If they processed their own rare earths so they aren't dependent on China, it would still be higher than the China price. If they're willing to pay more than ever, why aren't they doing that now? They said the same thing over outsourcing where they claim they are willing to pay more if it was made in the USA. Most rare earth elements can be found everywhere. They can find them at home and they can processed them at home... What's stopping them? They still want them cheap. The only way a private company can make a profit is to have their government subsidize it.

Wait till they get all that stuff that mining and processing rare earth elements are very very bad for the environment, like for your city, your county, your state. Like to see how the activists, environmentalists, and the lawyers pounce on that.