Chinese Aviation Industry
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China should also build a Gulfstream like business jet. There is both a civilian as a military market for it. It would be nice to see AEW&C and AWACS platforms based on jet planes rather than turboprop planes. All modern airforces now have AEW&C and AWACS platforms based on business jets.
Are you sure about that? Is not that the US/EU will ever stop wanting to sell airliners to china, as long as china pays.
I understand that having a domestic airliner builder is a political desire and an obvious economical one in the (very) long term, but to call it a real necessity is not accurate, IMO.
Even if EU/US will never stop selling commercial aircraft to China - a big if, if I have to put it mildly - China will still want to develop its own commercial aircraft industry. The reasons are quite simple: it's a high-tech industry employing a large number of highly-skilled workers and China being the world's largest aviation market (or soon-to-be) means that it's also a very lucrative market. In order for China to move up the economic ladder, it can not just do the low value-add industries. This is very simple and easy-to-understand. The question to ask is NOT why China develops its own commercial aircraft industry. The question is why it didn't do earlier.
I have to say I'm at times struggling to gauge your intent of posting a lot of stupid questions/articles. I can not decide whether you're being naive/ignorant/stupid/malicious or simply being a troll.
a small "if" IMO. Also, i understand the obvious economical desire for a airline industry, as i mentioned in the previous post. I never said that china shouldnt move up the economic ladder or just work in low value-add industries (something that they obviously arent doing). Im just mentioning that a domestic airline industry is not really indispendable (unlike semiconductors, defence, and other strategic sectors), because it is in the interest of the US/EU to sell as many airliners to china as they can.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Why should China support US/EU aviation industry? It might as well support domestic aviation industry. No major country like China can afford to be on the mercy of their potential foe specially in strategic cargo and air transport!
Their is a precedence. The Iranian was willing to pay but US/EU still fucked them over.
This alone makes COMAC a necessity. US/EU does not care about human lives/human rights when it serves their geopolitical goals.
lcloo
Captain
Why COMAC?
1) Money does not flow out of the country, at least 60% of the cost at this moment. In future when there is more Chinese domestic components, the percentage will increase.
2) The multiplier effect on the supply chain means more Chinese domestic companies are in business, more R & D and patent rights. Expanded economy and switch over from low cost labour intensive industries to high tech industries.
3) Increase employment of the huge Chinese workforce. The spending of wages will contribute to consumer products industries, among others.
4) Sanction free from foreign countries using "national security" as a pretend to destabilise China's civil aviation.
1) Money does not flow out of the country, at least 60% of the cost at this moment. In future when there is more Chinese domestic components, the percentage will increase.
2) The multiplier effect on the supply chain means more Chinese domestic companies are in business, more R & D and patent rights. Expanded economy and switch over from low cost labour intensive industries to high tech industries.
3) Increase employment of the huge Chinese workforce. The spending of wages will contribute to consumer products industries, among others.
4) Sanction free from foreign countries using "national security" as a pretend to destabilise China's civil aviation.
Aside from the obvious, from a civilian-military integration perspective, it is important l. For example, Chinese High bypass engines doesn't have the efficiency of western counterparts. ( apparently true for even the in-development CJ-1000A which somewhat lags behind CFM Leap series).
China also is inexcusably lagging in FMS, other Flight electronics and general construction optimization. The supply chain for Aircraft components, even though exist in China, must move qualitatively upstream - to compete with Rockwell Collins, Honeywell, Thales, Leornado, BAE etc
I don't need to mention the Military uses for C919 or variants, do I?
Plus
Chinese people and politicians won't need to be sceptical about their aircraft being bugged as they buy it from foreign companies.