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Rettam Stacf

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pendragon said:
has there ever been an attempt to convert this suberp plane to a waterbomber for firefighting???
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This is not a source from China. But it does suggest that fire fighting is indeed planned as one of the appliction for the AG-600.

  • The AG600 can carry up to 3,000 gallons of water, and like the CL-215/415 and Air Tractors it can scoop water from a lake and drop it on wildfires.
  • In 2015 The Coulson Group, operator of the two huge Martin Mars water-scooping aircraft,
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    from China who were expected to be the first to fly the AG600 (also known as the TA-600). The training included ground, water taxi, flight, scooping, and dropping water. The pilots went through classroom and hands on training using Coulson’s Hawaii Martin Mars aircraft, actually taxiing and flying the huge flying boat.

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When China ARJ 21 face delay and problem during her development phase the western analyst and press gleefully rub their hand in satisfaction. But developing plane even regional jet is not easy for a country with no experience in civil aviation let alone China which has very weak civilian aeronautical industry . The last attempt was in 1980 that was abandoned due to lack of money . But now ARJ 21 prove to be a success and production rate keep increasing year after year

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Even Japan has problem Mitsubishi scaled back their program of MRJ Here is the story

On Friday, it was reported that MHI would suspend plans for mass production of its regional commercial jet and postpone the first delivery, which had already been pushed out to 2021. The number of employees at Mitsubishi Aircraft (MHI’s aircraft manufacturing arm, which also makes fighter jets) will be reduced by half. Two of the company’s three offices in North America will be closed. Test flights at Moses Lake, Washington, have been halted.

The proximate cause for this is Covid-19, which has brought air traffic nearly to a halt and wiped out demand for new aircraft. But MHI launched its Mitsubishi Regional Jet project in 2008 with an order for 25 aircraft from All Nippon Airways, planning to begin deliveries in 2013. Since then, serious structural issues, design changes and other problems have led to six postponements of the initial delivery date. Total costs are expected to reach 800 billion yen this year and seem likely to reach 1 trillion yen (nearly $10 billion) within the next two or three years.
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

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The future of Chinese aviation industry is bright COMAc won another contract to supply 100 ARJ21 and C919
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China Express Air to buy 100 of COMAC's Chinese made planes
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June 10, 2020, 4:37 AM CDT


BEIJING, June 10 (Reuters) - China Express Airlines said on Wednesday it had signed a strategic partnership agreement with the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) to buy a total of 100 ARJ21 and C919 passenger aircraft for delivery from 2020.
The Guizhou-based regional airline did not provide details of the number of each model it wanted to buy, but said the two sides needed to hammer out the contractual details later on, a corporate filing to the Shenzhen stock exchange showed.

The planned purchases of the domestically-developed aircraft are a boost to state planemaker COMAC at a time when the coronavirus pandemic is devastating global travel demand, prompting many airlines to cancel or defer aircraft orders with top manufacturers Airbus and Boeing.
China Express and COMAC will also deepen cooperation on aircraft design and optimization, maintenance and services, and overseas market expansion, especially in countries that have signed up to China's Belt and Road Initiative and African markets, the carrier said.

By the end of May, COMAC had delivered 25 ARJ21-700 regional jets, according to state media reports. The country's three biggest state-owned airlines last year announced deals to each purchase 35 ARJ21 jets.
The C919, China's bid to break the Airbus and Boeing duopoly in the narrow-body passenger jet market, is still in flight-testing phase after years of delay. It is expected to receive Chinese airworthiness certification next year. (Reporting by Stella Qiu in Beijing and Jamie Freed in Sydney; Editing by Mark Potter)
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Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

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But that is misleading Comac insist on having manufacturing facilties in China. Most of socalled foreign part are built by joint venture in China even though using foreign technology but the manufacturing is in China, allowing local partner to acquired the manufacturing technology. Over time they will buil their own IP part It take time to built Civilan aerospace industry sicne China does not have the technology Though they do built part for military transport. But due to market acceptance an licensing theyused foregin technology
 
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Hendrik_2000 said:
But that is misleading Comac insist on having manufacturing facilties in China. Most of socalled foreign part are built by joint venture in China even though using foreign technology but the manufacturing is in China, allowing local partner to acquired the manufacturing technology. Over time they will buil their own IP part It take time to built Civilan aerospace industry sicne China does not have the technology Though they do built part for military transport. But due to market acceptance an licensing theyused foregin technology
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If Comac is put on the entity list, what does it have left? Not engines or avionics. Both ARJ21 and C919 are dead in the water. The Trump administration was considering this recently:

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