ah see you didnt hit the core of the issue here. the most important aspect is not how good the missile itself is, it is the fact that it can be carried by any H-6K/J. so it doesnt matter that it is not comparable to the centre fuselage carried ALBM as you stated, because this complicates the calculus for adversaries in a different way, both in the volume of fire to be delivered, and in the difficulties to track so many ALBM capable platforms.
Chinese air to ground weapons (missiles, PGMs, etc)
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Do you remember Shilao talking about a YJ-12 replacement? Can that replacement be this missile? It would be more survivable than a cruise missile.
From lyman2003 weibo, each h-6k should be able to carry 4 of these missiles and each missile might be as much as 3t. If I had to guess, this is probably between 2 to 3t, maybe a little heavier than B-611 and Kinzhal.
A few weeks ago, Ayi said on the podcast that they now have something better than YJ-12 for H-6K. I'm assuming this is it. It would be the logical progression from YJ-12 (which is already quite good). This missile should have advanced anti-ship seeker and be hypersonic. I would guess 800 to 1000 km in range depending on the warhead size. So more range and harder to intercept than YJ-12. H-6K/J just go more lethal. While I think it's possible they can put this on a J-15/16, I think it is probably unlikely since H-6K can carry them so much more efficiently.
Also, the large ballistic missiles we saw on h-6N are considered medium to long range ballistic missiles. My guess is they might go as far as 3000 km. So yeah, I see this as a pretty big improvement.
I do think that this missile is available for export. Maybe Pakistan would be interested in using it against IN. Although, I have no idea what platform they have that could launch it.
A few weeks ago, Ayi said on the podcast that they now have something better than YJ-12 for H-6K. I'm assuming this is it. It would be the logical progression from YJ-12 (which is already quite good). This missile should have advanced anti-ship seeker and be hypersonic. I would guess 800 to 1000 km in range depending on the warhead size. So more range and harder to intercept than YJ-12. H-6K/J just go more lethal. While I think it's possible they can put this on a J-15/16, I think it is probably unlikely since H-6K can carry them so much more efficiently.
Also, the large ballistic missiles we saw on h-6N are considered medium to long range ballistic missiles. My guess is they might go as far as 3000 km. So yeah, I see this as a pretty big improvement.
I do think that this missile is available for export. Maybe Pakistan would be interested in using it against IN. Although, I have no idea what platform they have that could launch it.
If China were to sell H-6 again would Russia get upset about it like they would with flankers?
lcloo
Captain
They would be upset if they are still making Tupolev Tu-16 and selling them, but then the last Tu-16 was built in 1962 in Soviet Union. All Tu-16 have been retired long time ago, and its original builder is now part of UAC in Russia, and they are concentrating on developing and building civil passenger airliners.
So, I don't think the Russians would be upset.
Shilao and Yankee said last night that it's based on M20 and indeed Kinzhal was the inspiration. Someone saw an early Kinzhal mockup under a MiG-31 and said that's a good idea we should make one too, it ended up entering service something like 3 years before Kinzhal.
Here's side by side comparison:
According to Yankee:
2 - Second Artillery Corps
PZD - 配重弹 - mass simulation round
Yankee said these are simulation rounds intended for flight crew training to give them a feel of what it's like to fly with the real thing. Being inert don't bother looking too much into the back and try to figure out details about the engine as there isn't one
Here's side by side comparison:
According to Yankee:
2 - Second Artillery Corps
PZD - 配重弹 - mass simulation round
Yankee said these are simulation rounds intended for flight crew training to give them a feel of what it's like to fly with the real thing. Being inert don't bother looking too much into the back and try to figure out details about the engine as there isn't one
Oh, 4 tons and within Flanker's MTOW if they carry just one? That has implications for Fujian...
