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manqiangrexue

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chlosy said:
Fins folded up like a square would save even more space?
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It depends on the shape of the bay. If the dimensions mean that you can fit 6 in perfectly by making their cross-section rectangular, then this is it. If they were folded into squares to save that extra bit of room, it could be slimmer in an unneeded place the just a bit fatter in the worst place and then you would have only room for 5 and then an extra pane of empty room near the opening.
 
TK3600

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It would be really nice if they designed the J-31/35 weapon bay space accounting for the way new missile fold.
 
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hundredyears said:
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of this particular issue of Ordnance Industry Science Technology for one's interest.

Besides the mentioned AAM article, one may find other articles also quite informative.
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While everyone is obsessing over how much longer my schlong is versus yours they missed out arguably the more important leak.

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PL-15 could be guided to its target by a different aircraft than the launcher. This is achieved via sophisticated data link and opens up a huge variety of options to PLAAF and explains why J-20 collaborates so closely with 4.5th gen fighter aircraft like J-16. J-16 could serve as the missile truck from the safety of the rear while the J-20 with stealthy profile can provide targeting information from the front even after it has exhausted its ammo supply.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
While everyone is obsessing over how much longer my schlong is versus yours they missed out arguably the more important leak.

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PL-15 could be guided to its target by a different aircraft than the launcher. This is achieved via sophisticated data link and opens up a huge variety of options to PLAAF and explains why J-20 collaborates so closely with 4.5th gen fighter aircraft like J-16. J-16 could serve as the missile truck from the safety of the rear while the J-20 with stealthy profile can provide targeting information from the front even after it has exhausted its ammo supply.
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Hahaha I tricked Deino into liking a post that mentions schlong.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
While everyone is obsessing over how much longer my schlong is versus yours they missed out arguably the more important leak.

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PL-15 could be guided to its target by a different aircraft than the launcher. This is achieved via sophisticated data link and opens up a huge variety of options to PLAAF and explains why J-20 collaborates so closely with 4.5th gen fighter aircraft like J-16. J-16 could serve as the missile truck from the safety of the rear while the J-20 with stealthy profile can provide targeting information from the front even after it has exhausted its ammo supply.
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Isn't this just confirmation of earlier speculation rather than something totally new?
If not for PL-15, such a capability was speculated for the PL-17 for sure
 
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FirebirdFan said:
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So hard to find good pictures of 11Bs with PL-15 :(
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That's one of the first images we had of PL-15 from the early 2010s, likely showing some of the initial flight tests of PL-15 had, part of a set released at that time.

Since then we had only one other good picture of a J-11B with a PL-15, without context.



All of which is to say -- it may very well be that PL-15 currently is not regular armament for fighter aircraft that are not J-20, J-16 or J-10C, thus the reason it is difficult to find "good pictures of J-11Bs with PL-15" may be because J-11Bs (and non-J-20/J-16/J-10C fighters in general) are not equipped or outfitted with them at present.
 
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TK3600 said:
I thought J-11 was updated not long ago?
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Yes. My point above still stands.

I.e. the reason we have not seen any J-11B (including J-11BG etc) with PL-15s is because they may not be outfitted with them.
Whether they (and I mean both J-11BG and J-11B) are capable of firing PL-15s or not is a whole other question.


But PL-15s may very much have priority for the fighters that can currently make the best use of them, i.e. J-20/J-16/J-10C.
 
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