Does it even make sense? An electrical motor with several MegaWatt power output is too heavy. And that's just the motor, the generator weighs a ton as well.Another V/STOL patent, this time from Shenyang Engine Research Institute. It calls for an electrically driven central lift fan with no mechanical connection to the engine, thus saving both space and reducing over all complexity. If I'm reading this correctly, the system is powered by liquid hydrogen, which is also used to cool the electric motor driving the lift fan.
China's V/STOL studies, concepts & considerations
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I know Captain is usually considered decently reliable, but is this person on the first 2 pics considered reliable? Cause if so there seem to be quite the noise about a VTOL project that is in the works. The comments section from the third picture are from the 2D VTOL nozzle post by Captain.
@伏尔戈星图 is rather controversial.
He's good at sourcing information from academic papers, but not so much when stepping way beyond those bounds (namely, claiming that the 076 LHD has two 40-meter EMCATs and denying that the 6th-gens will fly in 2024 are two of his infamous examples).
Regardless, on the topic of S/VTOL department - China is indeed working on developing such technologies (and it's not just @伏尔戈星图 who is saying that). Whether the end result is real-life application on future warplane/UCAV models or being archived for future referencing purposes is another matter entirely.
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This is a paper on a clutch mechanism for a turbofan similar to the RR LiftSystem, according to this paper this system has been trialled on a prototype:
The system is already installed onto a twin spool turbofan and tested, so this means this system is already at the prototype stage.
This is a paper on a clutch mechanism for a turbofan similar to the RR LiftSystem, according to this paper this system has been trialled on a prototype:
The system is already installed onto a twin spool turbofan and tested, so this means this system is already at the prototype stage.
This is a patent from Shenyang Aeroengine Corporation, it depicts a similar system to the roll posts on the F-35B. I should also mention that the above paper is also from Shenyang Aeroengine Corp and it's likely these are designed to work together similar to RR LiftSystem. At this point IMO, we should start seriously entertaining the idea that PLAN is working on a STOVL aircraft.
Also Captain had this to say when asked:
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I agree, there is a lot of noise lately about STOVL tech. So there are good chances a STOVL fighter is in the work, to fly from PLAN 075 and 076 LHAs. I don't think PLAAF has any need for STOVL though, too many drawbacks that are only justified when operating from LHDs.
What does Captain say?
What does Captain say?
Yes, a STOVL aircraft would be very suited for operation on 076s due to the fact that straight deck makes it pretty hard to land without risking crashing into anything parked at the bow either that or every time a plane lands you'd clear the deck which is pretty inefficient. But now with a STOVL aircraft that could land vertically would eliminate the risk of running into parked equipment on the deck and also allow multiple recoveries at once. 076's EMAL could be used to launch such an aircraft at MTOW and recover via VTOL system, I personally think this is the way to go.
Captain replies to the guy that asked: "WIll this(aircraft) have more range and payload than F-35B?" and he responds with "I'm not sure, but the aircraft itself is larger than F-35)"
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Agree with everything you say, except i would believe having the 075s STOVL compatible and operating would be a very welcomed capability boost too, even if just having the fighter use the STOVL mode. Just like those japanese "helicopter destroyers" i'm sure the 075s should be relatively easily modified to accomodate STOVL fighters, if that capability is not built into the design already.