China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft
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wtlh
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I have seen at Farnborough an A380 doing a full vertical loop. The thing looked so fat on the runway that a lot of people in the crowd actually was surprised that its take off looked so easy and in relatively short distance, and then gob-smacked when it started doing loops and all sorts of acrobatics in the sky. Unbelievable.
broadsword
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Flies like a dream.
I noticed on other sites that the wingspan is longer than its length, 50m to 47m, unlike the C-17. Maybe, this is the reason it does not have winglets. But so does the Il-76.
To admit I was surprised that nothing was reported about this monster at the Zhuhai Airshow.
It's a bit embarrassing to see foxtrot alpha peddle incorrect information. it is the helicopter's MTOW which is in the 38 ton class, not its payload.
One of the recent and original reports. The title is quite explicit, but through the grapevine the important bit (underlined) has been filtered out.
Well, we do not really know the complete specs for this new helicopter. But if it is bigger than the M-26 Halo...it is going to be HUGE. The Mi-26 is already significantly larger than the largest US helicopters in services (the CH-52E Super Stallions and MH-53E Sea Dragons) and also larger than the planned CH-53K King Stallion.
Here are some comparisons:
Russian: MI-26 Halo, 316 built
Length: 131 ft 4 in
Rotor Diameter: 105 ft
Height: 26 ft 9 in
Engines: 2 x D136 turboshafts, 11,400 shp each
Cruise Speed: 158 mph
Range: 1,190 miles
Service Ceiling: 15,100 ft.
Crew: 5
Capacity: 90 troops or 60 stretchers, 35,000 lbs
Empty weight: 62,170 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 123,450 lbs
US: CH-53E Super Stallion, 234 built
Length: 99 ft
Rotor Diameter: 79 ft
Height: 27 ft 9 in
Engines: 3 x GE316A turboshafts, 4,380 shp each
Cruise Speed: 170 mph
Range: 620 miles
Service Ceiling: 18,500 ft.
Crew: 5
Capacity: 55 troops, 30,000 lbs internal, 32,000 lbs external
Empty weight: 33,226 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 73,500 lbs
US: MH-53E Sea Dragon, 50 built
Length: 99 ft
Rotor Diameter: 72 ft 3 in
Height: 28 ft 4 in
Engines: 3 x GE316A turboshafts, 4,380 shp each
Cruise Speed: 172 mph
Range: 1,120 miles
Service Ceiling: 27,900 ft.
Crew: 8
Capacity: 30,000 lbs internal, 32,000 lbs external
Empty weight: 33,226 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 73,500 lbs
US: CH-53K King Stallion (Ground Test Prototype delivered in 2013, Flight Tests planned for 2015) 227 planned
Length: 99 ft
Rotor Diameter: 79 ft
Height: 27 ft 9 in
Engines: 3 x GE381B turboshafts, 7,500 shp each
Cruise Speed: 196 mph
Range: 600 miles
Service Ceiling: 18,800 ft.
Crew: 5
Capacity: 55 troops, 44,090 lbs internal
Empty weight: 33,226 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 84,700 lbs
But those US Marine CH-53Es do operate off of US Navy LHDs so that is one of the principle differences. the Mi-26s would simply be too big for that.
The Navy Sea Dragon mine hunter has been configured for higher altitude and longer range for its sea duties.
The main thing the US will get with the CH-53K is more powerful engines, faster speed, and a little more weight carrying. Still far smaller than the Halo.
Here are some comparisons:
Russian: MI-26 Halo, 316 built
Length: 131 ft 4 in
Rotor Diameter: 105 ft
Height: 26 ft 9 in
Engines: 2 x D136 turboshafts, 11,400 shp each
Cruise Speed: 158 mph
Range: 1,190 miles
Service Ceiling: 15,100 ft.
Crew: 5
Capacity: 90 troops or 60 stretchers, 35,000 lbs
Empty weight: 62,170 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 123,450 lbs
US: CH-53E Super Stallion, 234 built
Length: 99 ft
Rotor Diameter: 79 ft
Height: 27 ft 9 in
Engines: 3 x GE316A turboshafts, 4,380 shp each
Cruise Speed: 170 mph
Range: 620 miles
Service Ceiling: 18,500 ft.
Crew: 5
Capacity: 55 troops, 30,000 lbs internal, 32,000 lbs external
Empty weight: 33,226 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 73,500 lbs
US: MH-53E Sea Dragon, 50 built
Length: 99 ft
Rotor Diameter: 72 ft 3 in
Height: 28 ft 4 in
Engines: 3 x GE316A turboshafts, 4,380 shp each
Cruise Speed: 172 mph
Range: 1,120 miles
Service Ceiling: 27,900 ft.
Crew: 8
Capacity: 30,000 lbs internal, 32,000 lbs external
Empty weight: 33,226 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 73,500 lbs
US: CH-53K King Stallion (Ground Test Prototype delivered in 2013, Flight Tests planned for 2015) 227 planned
Length: 99 ft
Rotor Diameter: 79 ft
Height: 27 ft 9 in
Engines: 3 x GE381B turboshafts, 7,500 shp each
Cruise Speed: 196 mph
Range: 600 miles
Service Ceiling: 18,800 ft.
Crew: 5
Capacity: 55 troops, 44,090 lbs internal
Empty weight: 33,226 lbs
Max Take-off Weight: 84,700 lbs
But those US Marine CH-53Es do operate off of US Navy LHDs so that is one of the principle differences. the Mi-26s would simply be too big for that.
The Navy Sea Dragon mine hunter has been configured for higher altitude and longer range for its sea duties.
The main thing the US will get with the CH-53K is more powerful engines, faster speed, and a little more weight carrying. Still far smaller than the Halo.
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^ That's the thing; I sincerely doubt it will be larger than the Mi-26.
The original articles on the matter say a 38 ton TOW helicopter, not a 38 ton payload helicopter.
If anything, this new helicopter is China's own Ch-53K. It makes sense for China to want a heavy lift helicopter that they can adapt for LHA use.
The original articles on the matter say a 38 ton TOW helicopter, not a 38 ton payload helicopter.
If anything, this new helicopter is China's own Ch-53K. It makes sense for China to want a heavy lift helicopter that they can adapt for LHA use.