China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

Lethe

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there's some 0.7 meters of fuselage width diffrence between a400m and il76. and y20 is noticeably wider than il76. I'd guesstimate it's closer to a400m with than to il76's width. and if that one computer screen caption 2 years ago was from actual y20 project, then its even a tad wider than a400m.

Could be that I am mistaken, but I think we are talking about different aircraft. My post was referring to the new turboprop-powered Y-30 (at that seems to be the designation people are using). Certainly I have no trouble believing that Y-20 is as big around as A400M.
 

Blitzo

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Though for mission like MPA and AEW, it'd be better to switch the Y-30 to turbofans.

Hopefully, by that time, there will be MPA and AEW versions of C919 equipped with WS-20 turbofans available.

I can foresee PLA sticking with Y-9 as their multipurpose airframe for MPA, AEW, SIGINT, ECM etc for the next decade until transferring that role to a more efficient commercial airliner design
 

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TerraN_EmpirE

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Hopefully, by that time, there will be MPA and AEW versions of C919 equipped with WS-20 turbofans available.

I can foresee PLA sticking with Y-9 as their multipurpose airframe for MPA, AEW, SIGINT, ECM etc for the next decade until transferring that role to a more efficient commercial airliner design

I agree, And add the in my opinion the step one for a multirole Comac defence 919 would start with a replacement for PRC 737 vip and modified Boeing 737 "looking glass" command planes. The PLAAF could integrate upgraded command systems derived from the existing system into a Comac fuselage tailored for use in that role. Then use upgraded radars from there Y8 and Y9 programs.
 

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Zhuhai Airshow Opening: Congo (Brazzaville) ordered three Chinese ARJ21-700

2014年11月11日,在第十届中国国际航空航天博览会上,刚果(布)交通部宣布订购三架ARJ21-700飞机,包括两架ARJ21-700飞机及一架ARJ21-700飞机公务机。刚果(布)正式成为首个购买和运营ARJ21-700飞机的非洲国家。此前,在第49届范堡罗航展上,中国商飞公司与刚果(布)交通部签署了三架ARJ21-700飞机购机备忘录。

刚果(布)政府代表表示,ARJ21-700飞机完全按照国际一流适航标准设计研制,具有广泛的市场适应性和卓越的航程覆盖能力,非常适合在非洲地区运营。近年来,刚果(布)航空运输需求持续增长,对支线客机需求强劲,非常高兴与中国商飞公司合作,成为第一个购买ARJ21-700飞机的非洲国家,期待这三架飞机早日交付,并投入运营。

中国商飞公司总会计师田民表示,非常感谢刚果(布)对ARJ21-700飞机的信任与认可。中国商飞公司一直致力于为客户提供安全、舒适、经济、环保的民机产品,为世界民机产业的发展做出自己的贡献。ARJ21-700飞机是中国自主研发的高标准支线客机,安全可靠、绿色舒适。中国商飞公司将与刚果(布)携手同心,共同为非洲航空运输业的发展助力。

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2014年11 11, at the Tenth China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, Congo (Brazzaville) Ministry of Transportation announced an order for three aircraft ARJ21-700 aircraft, including two ARJ21-700 aircraft and a business jet aircraft ARJ21-700. Congo (Brazzaville) officially became the first aircraft to buy and operate ARJ21-700 African countries. Earlier, at the 49th Farnborough Airshow, China Commercial Aircraft Company and Congo (Brazzaville) Ministry of Transportation signed a memorandum of purchase of three aircraft ARJ21-700 aircraft. Congo (Brazzaville) on behalf of Government, ARJ21-700 aircraft airworthiness standards in full accordance with international-class design and development, has a broad range market adaptability and excellent coverage, is very suitable for operations in Africa. In recent years, Congo (Brazzaville) continued growth in demand for air transport, the strong demand for regional jets, are very pleased to partner with China Commercial Aircraft Company, became the first African country to buy ARJ21-700 aircraft and look forward to an early delivery of three aircraft, and put into operation. China Commercial Aircraft Company chief accountant Tian Min thanked Congo (Brazzaville) for ARJ21-700 aircraft trust and recognition. China Commercial Aircraft Company has been committed to providing customers with safe, comfortable, economical and environmentally friendly civil aircraft products for the development of the world's civil aircraft industry to make its own contribution. ARJ21-700 aircraft is China's homegrown regional jet high standard, safe, reliable, green and comfortable. China Commercial Aircraft Company and Congo (Brazzaville) join hands together to help the development of the air transport industry in Africa.
 

A.Man

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China Planemaker Gets New Orders in Fight With Airbus, Boeing

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By Bloomberg News Nov 11, 2014 1:11 AM ET 10 Comments Email Print

Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China Ltd. announced 30 new commitments for the C919, the nation’s first large passenger jet, as it attempts to break Boeing Co. (BA) and Airbus Group NV’s grip on the global aircraft market.

The state-owned company, also known as Comac, signed an initial agreement with China Merchants Bank Ltd.’s leasing unit, the planemaker said at at the Zhuhai Airshow in China today. Including today’s deal, Comac now has 430 orders from 17 clients for the 168-seat C919, the company said in a statement. Comac also reported getting pledges for 23 of its ARJ21-700s, including the first order from Africa.

“This will help the development of Chinese civil aviation,” Comac’s Chief Financial Officer Tian Min said in the statement.

The orders may help Shanghai-based Comac’s C919 get more acceptance among Chinese buyers, whose pledges have helped mask a shortage of overseas orders. Airbus and Chicago-based Boeing Co. both expect China’s economic boom to help the country become the world’s largest market for passenger planes by overtaking the U.S. in two decades.

GE Capital Aviation Services is the only confirmed foreign customer for the C919. The GE lessor signed a letter of intent to buy as many as 10 C919s at the Zhuhai Airshow in 2010. Fairfield, Connecticut-based GE will also supply engines for the aircraft through CFM International, a venture with Safran SA.

The C919’s first flight, which was previously scheduled for this year, is now set for 2015. Deliveries are set for 2018, delayed from 2016.

Comac aims to complete the full assembly of the C919 by August 2015 and conduct the first test flight by the end of next year, Yu Zemin, deputy general manager of COMAC Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Co., said at a conference in Shanghai in September.

To contact Bloomberg News staff for this story: Clement Tan in Hong Kong at [email protected]
 

Deino

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Was there any news reports about the progress on the C919 at all and especially on prototype construction ??
 

asif iqbal

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Ok so to summarise

ARJ-21 got another 23 orders with 3 from export from Africa

C919 got another 30 orders with previous order for export of 20 units from GET

Total ARJ-21 orders 332

Total C919 orders 430

Total orders 762

That's a good total considering first customer hasn't even for their first aircraft yet

If they can reach 1,000 orders by the time 2018 comes then this is a great success but they need to bag more % of orders for export

They should do sales in Asia, Latin America and Africa many country's would buy I am sure
 
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