China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

Dizasta1

Senior Member
Close up shots of the Y-20 heavy transport

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Simply beautiful!
 

superdog

Junior Member
At least 2 top mounted HUD can been seen, similar to those on the A400M (and many newer airliners) but unlike the C17.
 

escobar

Brigadier
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On Jan. 26, China successfully completed the maiden flight of Y-20, a heavy military freighter independently developed by China. The success of Y-20’s first test flight marks that China has become the fourth country to be able to make 200-ton scale military air freighter.

It is reported that part of the interior components of the Y-20 are made of the anti-flaming glass fiber reinforced epoxy resin and glass fiber reinforced phenolic resin prepreg composite, the development of which was led by the No. 703 office of No.1 institute of CASC and with the joint participation of many other units of this cooperation.

Combining the advantages of high specific strength and high specific stiffness of composite, anti-flaming and low smoke properties, this cabin design does not only successfully help reduce the weight of aircraft structure, improve the fire proof efficiency, but also has broken up the unfavorable situation that the large scale domestic aircraft has to adopt imported prepreg composite, realizing the requirement for “focusing on domestic market, self-sufficiency” of domestic large scale aircraft cabin and increasing the safety and economic efficiency of the whole aircraft body.

Driven by the demand for large aircraft represented by the Y-20, No. 703 office and its brother offices have carried out the research and development of those two kinds of prepreg composites, providing the interior components raw materials for the large aircraft.

Since the project gained approval in March 2009, through three years’ efforts, No. 703 office has successfully developed two kinds of aviation-grade high uniformity satin weave glass fiber fabric whose performance is on par with similar foreign products, fully satisfying the requirements of the fire-retardant materials for cabin interior.

In addition to the materials used on the Y-20, 703 office and other units also have realized at home for the first time a comprehensive performance test required by foreign material specifications, completing the evaluation system for large domestic aircraft cabin interior composites, breaking the monopoly of discourse power of foreign countries on the evaluation of material performance.

With the launching of the follow-up tasks of the Y-20, it is estimated that there will be hundreds of purchase contracts. Besides, CASC shall utilize the manufacturing advantage of aerospace military industry and continue achieving the win-win situation of both parties.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Looking good with that cockpit, bet it's a modern layout with a sophisticated systems

News on the A-400 Airbus is that 4 units will be delivered in 2013 in the second qaurter, serials MSN7 to MSN10, 3 will go to the French and 1 to Turkey

The UK, Germany and Malaysia are planned for 2014 and Spain and Belgium for 2018

So far total of 174 of these transports have been ordered with the Germans and French totalling 103 alone, or almost 60% of the entire order

Turkey is getting 10 aircraft, Turkeys 10th unit is due to be delivered in 2018 around the same time the Y-20 enters service
 

Gorthaur

New Member
After all it seems that most of the plane is different aluminium alloys, a disapointment for me. Probably (and hopefully) at least those gray areas are composites which would then include the tail and parts of the nose. Aviation Week article had a good point about Y-20's four piece rudder, similar to C-17. Maybe that was one reason to trust composites in that area as a four piece rudder eases pressures to upper parts of tail. If the tail truly is made of composites.
 

Engineer

Major
Well, wide spread application of composite on the fuselage was not done until A380 and Boeing 787. Given China is still behind the West in aerospace technology, it is natural for China to use all metal construction for the fuselage. I don't see anything to be disappointed about.
 

Totoro

Major
VIP Professional
even a380 is mostly non-composite. 20% of the plane is composite and majority of fuselage is aluminium alloy.
b787 and a350 are only planes that have composite fuselege skin (under which is a skeleton of mostly metal)
 

Gorthaur

New Member
Engineer: I know that and I understand that. Even so I am bit disappointed about the lack of will to excel the earlier formulas. Of course it would have been a tremendous gamble and going to traditional way is the easy way. Anyhow, the engine meant to Y-20 is still a long long way to emerge. Why not to play a little poker game with the airframe? Why not to try something new? This aircraft is going to be around at least next 30 years. Why do it like they did it in the seventies?
 
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