China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft - esp. Y-20/YY-20

by78

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More Y-20B sightings.

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by78

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Not sure how legitimate this is, but here are some
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documents posted on a
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. The documents ask for engineering studies and test samples of various parts and systems that point to a new transport being developed. Given the nature of these systems, I think this plane could be a new heavy transport in the same class as the
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or the
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(Performance Simulation of Hydraulic Control System for a Large Nose Cargo Door):

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(Engineering Samples/Demonstration of Nose and Rear Cargo Door Seals):


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(Demonstration/Simulation of a
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for a High-bypass Engine):

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I believe this is a call for engineering samples/test pieces for a foldable/retractable partition system separating the upper and lower decks of the fuselage. The system is to be of metal/composite construction. Dimensions are 1.72m x 2.45m x 3.28m):

A paper on numerical simulation of the aerodynamics of a large strategic transport. Filing it here for record keeping, since there have been signs of China working on a large transport in the same class as C-5 and AN-124. Of particular interest is that the paper examined the aerodynamics of an early warning variant mounting an impressively large radome.

EDIT: I want to emphasize that the dimensions and specs of the models in this paper are not to be taken literally, as the paper mainly has to do with validating the usefulness of the numerical models in designing large transports and early warning variants based on them.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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A paper on numerical simulation of the aerodynamics of a large strategic transport. Filing it here for record keeping, since there have been signs of China working on a large transport in the same class as C-5 and AN-124. Of particular interest is that the paper examined the aerodynamics of an early warning variant mounting an impressively large radome.

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Figured it'd be better to reply to the academic paper separately in separate threads.

The general dimension of the aircraft given in the paper is pretty much similar to the now-destroyed An-225.

As for the engines - The 569 kN max thrust per engine value sounds outright bogus. An An-225-sized airlifter don't need 4x 569 kN engines when 4x 350-400 kN-class engines is already sufficient.

For reference, the An-225 is powered by 6x 230 kN engines.
 

sunnymaxi

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Figured it's be better to reply to the paper separately.

The general dimension of the aircraft given in the paper is pretty much similar to the now-destroyed An-225.

As for the engines - The 569 kN max thrust per engine value sounds outright bogus. An An-225-sized airlifter won't need 4x 569 kN-class engines when 4x 350-400 kN-class engines is already sufficient.
this research paper indicate, this project could be in research/development phase. exploring different ideas

AVIC had eyes on An-225 for so long.. they even completed initial preparation for production when they signed deal with Antonov for second unfinished aircraft back in 2016. AVIC head of large transport aircraft Zhu Qian openly said, we will build An-225 type aircraft in China..

don't take Engine thrust serious.. if you look at C-5/An-124/An-225. all these gigantic airlifters have 250KN thrust of per Engine.

250kn-300kn engine is more than enough to power this monster.. this is what AECC Shenyang doing right now.
 

by78

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Figured it'd be better to reply to the academic paper separately in separate threads.

The general dimension of the aircraft given in the paper is pretty much similar to the now-destroyed An-225.

As for the engines - The 569 kN max thrust per engine value sounds outright bogus. An An-225-sized airlifter don't need 4x 569 kN engines when 4x 350-400 kN-class engines is already sufficient.

For reference, the An-225 is powered by 6x 230 kN engines.

The paper explores and validates the usefulness of certain numerical simulation models and methods in helping design large transports and early warning variants based on them. The dimensions and specs of the model used are not important.
 

Gloire_bb

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For reference, the An-225 is powered by 6x 230 kN engines.
To be fair, an-225 was almost exclusively designed as a barely flying AKS(space launch system) carrier, which for most of it's career didn't do it job. It isn't a good example of proper military transport.

If you want to make it into one, usable not only for careful flying from extra class runways, something like this isn't totally out of realm of reason.

And yes, it'll take a lot.
 

BoraTas

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Figured it'd be better to reply to the academic paper separately in separate threads.

The general dimension of the aircraft given in the paper is pretty much similar to the now-destroyed An-225.

As for the engines - The 569 kN max thrust per engine value sounds outright bogus. An An-225-sized airlifter don't need 4x 569 kN engines when 4x 350-400 kN-class engines is already sufficient.

For reference, the An-225 is powered by 6x 230 kN engines.
They want An-225 but with austere field capability then :cool::cool:. 2280 kN is a lot of thrust.
 
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