This is center of Moon's proposal. And it is the rejection of the noise of "unification under SK" that went around everywhere, within SK and propagated within China. Whether this is received well by NK, I don't know. But I am sure it is well received by China and Russia.
China's strategy in Korean peninsula
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This is center of Moon's proposal. And it is the rejection of the noise of "unification under SK" that went around everywhere, within SK and propagated within China. Whether this is received well by NK, I don't know. But I am sure it is well received by China and Russia.
#699 tells us that SK has answered the question "are you ready?" very quick, partially at least.
It seems that things move really fast and lots of talks happened behind doors.
AssassinsMace
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I was watching some pundit on TV charging that China and Russia have long term goals undermining US interests in Asia regarding doing nothing about North Korea. The pot calling the kettle black. The only reason why the US wants China to pull all the levers is because if it fails, the loss is all China's. North Korea will have nothing to do with China making it more isolated and a collapse more likely. North Korean nukes might be pointed towards China lessening the threat to the US and allies in the region. If South Korea takes over, China will have no say. That's why the US won't hear any concerns for China. So unless China takes action for its own interests alone and not any of the US and it allies, the road ahead favors US interests. Some pundits in the US call for the US to negotiate with China on terms and guarantees if China cooperates. And the US government has never entertained it which tells you they know if China doesn't aid North Korea, everything will naturally fall in line with US goals undermining China in the long run.
Like I've said before in here... China better be prepared to takeover as much of North Korea as possible if military exchanges happen between North Korea and the US. What are they going to complain about? China is being aggressive especially if the US is the one that initiates surgical strikes. The US wants China to act even militarily. They just expect China to pull out afterwards. Then China has a say they can't ignore.
Like I've said before in here... China better be prepared to takeover as much of North Korea as possible if military exchanges happen between North Korea and the US. What are they going to complain about? China is being aggressive especially if the US is the one that initiates surgical strikes. The US wants China to act even militarily. They just expect China to pull out afterwards. Then China has a say they can't ignore.
Better tell SK that in case of US aggression against NK it will have to expel US forces. It can then negotiate a friendship treaty with China and open the way to eventual reunification with the North.
Jura The idiot
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In a rapid change of events, the Chinese President invoked the seldom seen phrase "Blood Alliance" (xue meng) in front of the South Korean President's face in a bilateral meeting during G20 summit.
Xi Jinping reportedly said to South Korean President Moon Jae-in:
This suggests even if the North launched an intercontinental ballistic missile, which is a provocation deemed as a game changer, Beijing will do little to hurt their alliance.
Source:
There you have it.... China will NEVER abandon North Korea, even if it tests nukes/ICBMs, etc... and it's coming straight from the Chinese President's mouth directly to SK President.
Xi Jinping reportedly said to South Korean President Moon Jae-in:
This suggests even if the North launched an intercontinental ballistic missile, which is a provocation deemed as a game changer, Beijing will do little to hurt their alliance.
Source:
There you have it.... China will NEVER abandon North Korea, even if it tests nukes/ICBMs, etc... and it's coming straight from the Chinese President's mouth directly to SK President.
Short of an invasion of North Korea the Chinese can not do much. The idea that a phone call from Beijing would stop North Korea from doing what it is doing for some 20 years is an illusion. Therefore claiming something esoteric like a "blood alliance" just helps to cover the fact that China is not able to do anything.
Chinese soldiers also died in Vietnam and Laos helping them against the French and the USA but there's no mention of a blood alliance there.
Chinese soldiers also died in Vietnam and Laos helping them against the French and the USA but there's no mention of a blood alliance there.
Hendrik_2000
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I guess you don't learn your history well. There only limited number of Chinese who get involve with Vietnam of Laos war
They act mostly as adviser . But in Korea there are epic battle involving hundred of thousand soldier with large casualties
So it is completely different level of blood sacrifice
Jura The idiot
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First "Korean Herald" has to prove what it reported as what president Xi said to president Moon is truth, rather than the author's fabrication.
It has been trendy for many SK news outlets to fabricate such reports for many purposes, putting a wedge between SK and China or wedge between NK and China, all serve one purpose and one purpose only, to topple NK and chop off one arm of China in the region.
To imagine Xi would mention "blood alliance" to president Moon is wild and weird at best, and crazy and insane at worst. Xi is not Trump, remember. Xi would not say such non-diplomatic words even he think so (only in his mind). Xi may say that to Trump's face when cornered by Trump or even Park, but certainly not to Moon because Moon is still a target to win over than a total enemy. One don't slap the face of a person whom is on the fence, doing so otherwise will push him over.
As to the last sentence of the post, Beijing will do nothing to hurt the Sino-NK relationship in that scenario, NOT because China agrees with a possible NK launch (actually against it as much as against US/SK aggression), BUT because China sees that launch is a CONSEQUENCE of US/SK PROVOCATION. The Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has made that very clear.