China's strategy in Afghanistan.
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Honestly depressing, maybe I was wrong about India and Taliban relations. I know they aren't allies, but I figured they would at least be neutral.
Although, I guess it makes sense since India is supporting the Northern Alliance. Would be pretty interesting to see a China-backed Taliban vs an Indian-backed Northern Alliance.
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This is a good development for China and Afghanistan. While it is longer and passes through 2 other countries, the terrain is relatively easy to navigate. The project also geopolitically binds the 5 countries through economic development and cooperation.
China can also access Afghanistan directly via the narrow Wakhan Corridor on the Afghanistan side, or via Pakistan. But the terrain in the Wakhan Corridor is extremely mountainous and difficult to develop a high volume transport network. The gateways between China and Pakistan are all on high mountain passes. But infrastructure has already been developed as part of the CPEC, and capacity can be expanded as needed. However, the relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan posts another hurdle that needs to be overcome.
Being one of China's closest allies, it is sad to see Pakistan to miss out on another economy development opportunity due to political reason.
Finally, just curious why Tajikistan is left our of this project. May be it is due to the relationship between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance whose bases are near the border with Tajikistan.
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Tajikistan's relation with Kyrgyzstan isn't good either.
This JewBear is an absolute troll and I don't even know how his not banned... What do you expect from gangus the IQ is low there for a reason..
First things first.
Why would Pakistan join a nation they have ruled over a 1000 years and who are just now having some sort of self-awakening hinduism. Besides the notion that India is bound to become stronger down the line is near filmsy and that is what India has been saying since 30 years ago but it has only got poorer on the poverty index. Everyone in the region will become stronger come 30 years from now including Afghanistan it will industrialize. Pakistan's military will be on pair with India just like now but the Pakistan has more organistation on the military plan compared to India that lacks that oversight of things. India can't militarily push thru Pakistan, Afghanistan and the more likely scenario is a repeat of history which is India getting pushed back inside India itself which is why our JewBear frined here is begging China for help but making it appear as if it is the other way around. China doesn't need India to survive whatsoever and it is in fact the opposite.
Lets assume China and India relations improve in the area what this will trigger is a counter and alternative political alignments this will open a huge gap for the west or opportunity meaning both Pakistan, Afghanistan and the other surrounding it will go with NATO and US.
1. India is geographically sealed off and can't offer China much then a very poorly motivated cannon fodders and ill equipped. Whereas the US will gain access of another NATO like organization worldwide. 30-40 nations expanding thru out the world could fold into NATO ranks. Hence Pakistan has influence in places India could only dream off.
Influence wise India doesn't enjoy friendly nations across the world unlike Pakistan which makes Pakistan the way more influential ally. India will be in theory be burden to China as they are viewed negatively in some quarters. China allying with them could shift the entire alliance or neutrality structure around the entire Asian continent. India's limitations is that it is only a country and doesn't interlinked into a civilization example like Australia or even Malaysia etc etc.. The Western civilization and Islamic civilizations are vast civilzations which numbering around 35 and 50 sovereign nations and the coming together of both won't be stragetically good for a third power waving for power
First things first.
Why would Pakistan join a nation they have ruled over a 1000 years and who are just now having some sort of self-awakening hinduism. Besides the notion that India is bound to become stronger down the line is near filmsy and that is what India has been saying since 30 years ago but it has only got poorer on the poverty index. Everyone in the region will become stronger come 30 years from now including Afghanistan it will industrialize. Pakistan's military will be on pair with India just like now but the Pakistan has more organistation on the military plan compared to India that lacks that oversight of things. India can't militarily push thru Pakistan, Afghanistan and the more likely scenario is a repeat of history which is India getting pushed back inside India itself which is why our JewBear frined here is begging China for help but making it appear as if it is the other way around. China doesn't need India to survive whatsoever and it is in fact the opposite.
Lets assume China and India relations improve in the area what this will trigger is a counter and alternative political alignments this will open a huge gap for the west or opportunity meaning both Pakistan, Afghanistan and the other surrounding it will go with NATO and US.
1. India is geographically sealed off and can't offer China much then a very poorly motivated cannon fodders and ill equipped. Whereas the US will gain access of another NATO like organization worldwide. 30-40 nations expanding thru out the world could fold into NATO ranks. Hence Pakistan has influence in places India could only dream off.
Influence wise India doesn't enjoy friendly nations across the world unlike Pakistan which makes Pakistan the way more influential ally. India will be in theory be burden to China as they are viewed negatively in some quarters. China allying with them could shift the entire alliance or neutrality structure around the entire Asian continent. India's limitations is that it is only a country and doesn't interlinked into a civilization example like Australia or even Malaysia etc etc.. The Western civilization and Islamic civilizations are vast civilzations which numbering around 35 and 50 sovereign nations and the coming together of both won't be stragetically good for a third power waving for power
I guess we'll have to agree-to-disagree. I've already stated my position on peaceful cooperation in the region while you guys disagree. Also, what does gangus even mean? Is that suppose to be a racial slur to Indians or something? If it is, I'm an American-born Vietnamese, so I don't understand the point of that.
In a forum, it is not who one claims he is, but what he says that count.
Don't get me wrong, everyone here are for peace, prosperity and stability in the S Asian sub-continent and its neighborhood. But it seems your proposals benefit no one else but India. In fact, they benefits India at significant expense of others. Hence all the rebuttal to your posts.
Yes, I'll agree that India is the biggest winner if you've read my previous posts. After thinking it through some more, I think proposing unification was a pretty unreasonable goal. A better, more reasonable goal would probably be for Pakistan and India to normalize relations and develop some could of economic union similar to the European Union that would include all the nations of the Indian sub-continent.
As for China not getting anything out of this at all, I don't understand this statement. China and India get to solve their border disputes and engage in more economic cooperation. Yes, India gets more out of this, but it's not like China gets nothing. In my previous posts, I've already stated that I was short-sighted and accepted that China should not play an active role in making this a reality. Rather, I stated that if China sees a rising India that is starting to develop good relations with Pakistan and its other neighbors, I don't think China should try to stall and impede India's development. It hasn't worked for the U.S. in regards to China the same way it won't work for China in regards to India.
Rebuttals are one thing. I'm very willing to admit I'm wrong. I've already changed a lot of my stances compared to my original post. With that said, some of the users here have engaged in rabid hatred of Indians with some saying that Indians are low IQ savages. One user even called for the dismantling of India, and that China shouldn't even work with India.
China resolved border disputes with all her neighbours except India and its vassal Butan, what do you think the reason behind that is? China is not the problem, India is. Indians aren’t willing to compromise and they haven’t change one bit in 70+ years.