China should under no circumstances surrender anything to India. It is possible to build up influence in Afghanistan without anything to do with India. India has repeatedly proven itself to be a hostile imperial power
China's strategy in Afghanistan.
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India sucks. It adores the Anglos because it was colonised by the Bristish and its mindset the same hence their hindish.
Seriously, why does everyone on SDF hate India. You guys really hate India that much b/c of one war you guys won anyway. Also, I never said anything about surrendering to India. What I said was:
Nowhere in my statement did I advocate for China to surrender. I simply stated that China should have a mutual exchange with India. China gets no more border disputes, and India gets Pakistan through hopefully peaceful reunification.
Are you joking? Why should Pakistan like to REUNITE with India? It was India which encroached on China's territories, India should withdraw completely if it wants peace.
Are you joking? Why should Taiwan like to REUNITE with China?
Now see how stupid your argument is.
I know, but the world isn't fair my dude. It's not like China will suffer b/c Pakistan and India peacefully reunify. If anything, if the one brokering the reunification process between Pakistan and India, it would help build great relations. Through this newly built good relations, India will sign a peace deal with China, which will stop all border disputes.
Now see how logically I sound compared to getting overly angry and just screaming India bad.
Speaking of long term plan it is never good to have a nuclear armed great power next door with hostile hegemony ambition. India must be dismentled for the safety of China in centuries to come. Start with Kashmir and Assam.
Meanwhile Pakistan pose zero threat to China because its sphere of influence is in middle east that is also contested by Iran and Saudi Arabia. Pakistan never has ambition in south east asia or tibet or Nepal, unlike India.
It is in interest of China to unify with Taiwan. It is not in their interest to help a hostile nation get stronger for brownie points. What is India gonna do, help China annex Japan? Because that is the equivalent of an exchange.
Ugh. Recently I have trying to stay away from political discussions since they take up too much time. But this one just tempted me back into this endless bickering.
You are assuming that the Pakistan-India split is similar to that of mainland China and Taiwan. However they aren’t the same. Do you even understand why Indians and Pakistanis hate each other in the first place?
Instead of convincing Chinese to be friendly to Indian, why don’t you convince Indian to be more friendly towards Chinese and see how it go. Cooperation need mutual understanding and willingness from both side, and no amount of effort to knock the Indian out of propaganda about China bad or superiority complex toward their Chinese counterpart.
India isn't without potential because they do have close ties with Russia and membership in BRICS. And Russia aside from NK is the one country that will go anywhere for China, so it doesn't make sense that India can be close to Russia in the long term without also joining China. Either they must drop Russia as well, or eventually come to embrace the bloc Russia is part of.
Ultimately it is the Indian choice. Stay with your past colonisers and hope they'll throw you a few bones, or ditch UK and US behind permanently.
I think the smart among Indian leadership do realize that the future lies with the East and China's multipolar, international law based order, rather than the West and their Washington dictate based order. But how many Indian leaders are actually smart and what influence they have I don't know, I'm no expert in Indian politics.
I also believe in that China should be lenient with India if they choose to jump sides. Its also a reason why China doesn't pursue destructive strategies against India yet.
India right now can be seen a little similar to the Yeltsin Russian regime. They have some naive picture of the west, but also a fair deal of skepticism. Oligarchies, such as India, are naturally susceptible to siding with other oligarchies like those in the West.
Instead of grilling them constantly over kowtowing to the west and for selling out, it is worth it for China to take things slow and let the indians themselves come to an understanding about which course is more worthy to be followed. The Russians came to their conclusion, China has 5-10 yrs minimum to see through India to theirs.
And should India fall to far right reactionaries, China will still have ways to paralyze them using their neighbors, their own separatist, internal communist unrest and so on.
Ultimately it is the Indian choice. Stay with your past colonisers and hope they'll throw you a few bones, or ditch UK and US behind permanently.
I think the smart among Indian leadership do realize that the future lies with the East and China's multipolar, international law based order, rather than the West and their Washington dictate based order. But how many Indian leaders are actually smart and what influence they have I don't know, I'm no expert in Indian politics.
I also believe in that China should be lenient with India if they choose to jump sides. Its also a reason why China doesn't pursue destructive strategies against India yet.
India right now can be seen a little similar to the Yeltsin Russian regime. They have some naive picture of the west, but also a fair deal of skepticism. Oligarchies, such as India, are naturally susceptible to siding with other oligarchies like those in the West.
Instead of grilling them constantly over kowtowing to the west and for selling out, it is worth it for China to take things slow and let the indians themselves come to an understanding about which course is more worthy to be followed. The Russians came to their conclusion, China has 5-10 yrs minimum to see through India to theirs.
And should India fall to far right reactionaries, China will still have ways to paralyze them using their neighbors, their own separatist, internal communist unrest and so on.