China's strategy in Afghanistan.
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The Americans should have heeded the advice from one of their favorite Asian/ASEAN leaders, P.M. Lee Kuan Yew on Afghanistan. Americans are too enamored with their romanticized version of themselves that they have totally become moronic when it comes to their foreign policy.
solarz
Brigadier
LOL, you really think the US gives a crap about those Afghans?
MwRYum
Major
If we have to go by the internet traffic and the spat from all them "817" and "1450" types, it's safe to say that there're quite a number of those who actually (at least for now) believe so.
Good news is, FAE isn't that expensive...
T
Unfortunately the yanks never remember history; it is not in their DNA. Korean war, Vietnam war just to name a couple. How many years the US has not been directly or indirectly engaged in wars? Now a mad rush, unplanned withdrawal and have to ask the Taliban to help them. They are now in such a haste like a well beaten dog with its tail curls between its hind legs.
"Last month, the independent journalist Michael Tracey, writing at Substack, interviewed a U.S. veteran of the war in Afghanistan. The former soldier, whose job was to work in training programs for the Afghan police and also participated in training briefings for the Afghan military, described in detail why the program to train Afghan security forces was such an obvious failure and even a farce. “I don’t think I could overstate that this was a system just basically designed for funneling money and wasting or losing equipment,” he said. In sum, “as far as the US military presence there — I just viewed it as a big money funneling operation”: an endless money pit for U.S. security contractors and Afghan warlords, all of whom knew that no real progress was being made, just sucking up as much U.S. taxpayer money as they could before the inevitable withdraw and takeover by the Taliban.
In light of all this, it is simply inconceivable that Biden’s false statements last month about the readiness of the Afghan military and police force were anything but intentional. That is particularly true given how heavily the U.S. had Afghanistan under every conceivable kind of electronic surveillance for more than a decade. A significant portion of the archive provided to me by Edward Snowden detailed the extensive surveillance the NSA had imposed on all of Afghanistan. In accordance with the guidelines he required, we never published most of those documents about U.S. surveillance in Afghanistan on the ground that it could endanger people without adding to the public interest, but some of the reporting gave a glimpse into just how comprehensively monitored the country was by U.S. security services.
In 2014, I reported along with Laura Poitras and another journalist that the NSA had developed the capacity, under the codenamed SOMALGET, that empowered them to be “secretly intercepting, recording, and archiving the audio of virtually every cell phone conversation” in at least five countries. At any time, they could listen to the stored conversations of any calls conducted by cell phone throughout the entire country. Though we published the names of four countries in which the program had been implemented, we withheld, after extensive internal debate at The Intercept, the identity of the fifth — Afghanistan — because the NSA had convinced some editors that publishing it would enable the Taliban to know where the program was located and it could endanger the lives of the military and private-sector employees working on it (in general, at Snowden’s request, we withheld publication of documents about NSA activities in active war zones unless they revealed illegality or other deceit). But WikiLeaks subsequently revealed, accurately, that the one country whose identity we withheld where this program was implemented was Afghanistan.
There was virtually nothing that could happen in Afghanistan without the U.S. intelligence community’s knowledge."
If this is true, then why the messy troop withdrawal? Laura Logan, who's an award winning journalist, for CBS, is openly asking if all of this is intentional.
In light of all this, it is simply inconceivable that Biden’s false statements last month about the readiness of the Afghan military and police force were anything but intentional. That is particularly true given how heavily the U.S. had Afghanistan under every conceivable kind of electronic surveillance for more than a decade. A significant portion of the archive provided to me by Edward Snowden detailed the extensive surveillance the NSA had imposed on all of Afghanistan. In accordance with the guidelines he required, we never published most of those documents about U.S. surveillance in Afghanistan on the ground that it could endanger people without adding to the public interest, but some of the reporting gave a glimpse into just how comprehensively monitored the country was by U.S. security services.
In 2014, I reported along with Laura Poitras and another journalist that the NSA had developed the capacity, under the codenamed SOMALGET, that empowered them to be “secretly intercepting, recording, and archiving the audio of virtually every cell phone conversation” in at least five countries. At any time, they could listen to the stored conversations of any calls conducted by cell phone throughout the entire country. Though we published the names of four countries in which the program had been implemented, we withheld, after extensive internal debate at The Intercept, the identity of the fifth — Afghanistan — because the NSA had convinced some editors that publishing it would enable the Taliban to know where the program was located and it could endanger the lives of the military and private-sector employees working on it (in general, at Snowden’s request, we withheld publication of documents about NSA activities in active war zones unless they revealed illegality or other deceit). But WikiLeaks subsequently revealed, accurately, that the one country whose identity we withheld where this program was implemented was Afghanistan.
There was virtually nothing that could happen in Afghanistan without the U.S. intelligence community’s knowledge."
If this is true, then why the messy troop withdrawal? Laura Logan, who's an award winning journalist, for CBS, is openly asking if all of this is intentional.
ISIS is such an obvious CIA/Mossad op that the Taliban made sure to kill as many Islamic state personnel as possible and executed the Islamic state in central and south asia Faction Leader:
According to retired indian diplomat Bhadrakumar, the Taliban are expected to wipe out Islamic State of Khorasan asap:
Such a feat will neuter anglo projects in central asia and set the anglos back in their desire to split BRI.
I'll bet the MSS already has assets in the taliban coordinating say drone strikes and intelligence against the IS.
According to retired indian diplomat Bhadrakumar, the Taliban are expected to wipe out Islamic State of Khorasan asap:
Such a feat will neuter anglo projects in central asia and set the anglos back in their desire to split BRI.
I'll bet the MSS already has assets in the taliban coordinating say drone strikes and intelligence against the IS.