China's Space Program Thread II

[ZachL111]

Kazakhstan will join China's ILRS Program

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Honestly kind of expected this, glad to see China adding another partner in this endeavor. As one of the previous commenters on this thread mentioned, Kazakhstan does technically have a spaceport, but it's leased to Russia for the foreseeable future. However, in the context of the agreement, and the fact the ILRS is a program that Russia/China/Kazakhstan are all members of, I believe all three nations will have the ability to use the Baikonur Cosmodrome if they need to for ILRS launches. Overall very positive development, I'm American myself so obviously my nation has the Artemis Accords, but I'm glad to see multiple visions for space cooperation in the future.

 

[siegecrossbow]

NASA wants to share sample from Moon's dark side, Chinese ministry of foreign affairs: "does your government allow you to do so?".

If Frank Wolf performs hawk tuahs President Xi and Xi is satisfied with the result then maybe CNSA will consider.

 

[Asug]

Kazakhstan will join China's ILRS Program

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Honestly kind of expected this, glad to see China adding another partner in this endeavor. As one of the previous commenters on this thread mentioned, Kazakhstan does technically have a spaceport, but it's leased to Russia for the foreseeable future. However, in the context of the agreement, and the fact the ILRS is a program that Russia/China/Kazakhstan are all members of, I believe all three nations will have the ability to use the Baikonur Cosmodrome if they need to for ILRS launches. Overall very positive development, I'm American myself so obviously my nation has the Artemis Accords, but I'm glad to see multiple visions for space cooperation in the future.

Yes it is possible. I can assume that China will join the Baiterek project. And instead of the long-suffering Angara/Sunkar/Irtysh, they will launch from Kazakhstani soil... for example, CZ-6

 

[ZachL111]

Yes it is possible. I can assume that China will join the Baiterek project. And instead of the long-suffering Angara/Sunkar/Irtysh, they will launch from Kazakhstani soil... for example, CZ-6

To a certain extent, potentially. I don't think it will be as full-fledged as the existing Baikonur Cosmodrome, because it's easier to integrate in an already developed launch complex with a slight modification, rather than revising standards potentially to fit China's integration. I do like what China is doing here though, using other spaceports in the future to help launch, aside from building more/using sea-based drone platforms.

 

[tygyg1111]

If Frank Wolf performs hawk tuahs President Xi and Xi is satisfied with the result then maybe CNSA will consider.

*Frank Wolf's adult daughter

CNSA should just send some powdered petrified wood instead

 

[gelgoog]

Yes it is possible. I can assume that China will join the Baiterek project. And instead of the long-suffering Angara/Sunkar/Irtysh, they will launch from Kazakhstani soil... for example, CZ-6

Good luck with that. The main reason for the delays in project implementation by the Russians is that the Kazakhs don't want the rocket to have any hypergolics. Even if it is just a small amount of them in the last stage. This means the Russians cannot launch Angara from Baikonur. Briz-M uses hypergolic fuel. This is what you get when you put retarded politicians in charge of a space program.

CZ-6 also uses hypergolics in its last stage. As do a lot of other rockets.

 

[Asug]

Good luck with that. The main reason for the delays in project implementation by the Russians is that the Kazakhs don't want the rocket to have any hypergolics. Even if it is just a small amount of them in the last stage. This means the Russians cannot launch Angara from Baikonur. Briz-M uses hypergolic fuel. This is what you get when you put retarded politicians in charge of a space program.

CZ-6 also uses hypergolics in its last stage. As do a lot of other rockets.

Poisonous fuel is just one of the reasons, and not the most important one. In the Russian-language blogosphere, holywars raged about this. I don’t think it’s worth moving them here, I’ll just give a hint - money, money, money...

 

[gelgoog]

Poisonous fuel is just one of the reasons, and not the most important one. In the Russian-language blogosphere, holywars raged about this. I don’t think it’s worth moving them here, I’ll just give a hint - money, money, money...

Russia has already built two launch pads at Vostochny. One for the Soyuz and another for Angara. The only reason to keep the Baikonur site is the manned space program. Since Vostochny does not have facilities for manned space flight.

As for China they have no reason to launch from Baikonur when Hainan island is much closer to the Equator and in their own territory.

 

[by78]

High-resolution images of the launch of the 2nd batch of Tianhui-5 observation satellites. The launch marked the 527th flight of the Long March series.

 

[Asug]

Russia has already built two launch pads at Vostochny. One for the Soyuz and another for Angara. The only reason to keep the Baikonur site is the manned space program. Since Vostochny does not have facilities for manned space flight.

As for China they have no reason to launch from Baikonur when Hainan island is much closer to the Equator and in their own territory.

That's it. That is why the wording in the agreement on the joint use of launch sites is of interest. What is behind this..