China's Space Program Thread II

tankphobia

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Just for this statement, he, along with his hiring manager and executives should be fired.

That's not the sort of attitude and culture you want in the space industry.
The more they speak, the worse they make it for themselves. Just stfu
Truly bizzare, considering there is no upside to actually speaking. They can simply state there was an malfunction, it's under investigation as public speak and be done with it. Yet they keep coming up with these statements that do nothing but make their company seems more incompetent.

A static firing stand should have a safety factor above 2, so the excuse of rocket too strong shouldn't even be entertained.
 

tygyg1111

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"Our engine is too good and the performance is too strong." The above staff member said. He also said that after the rocket (accidentally) took off, the company took the initiative to shut down the rocket and let it fall. "This is what we set up first. It must be shut down. There is a plan."

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This sounds more like an excuse attributable to a southwestern neighbor. Shame.
 

Overbom

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PR has online , Official apology letter has released.

No new info about the failure.

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Bad apology. No explanation or anything. If you read carefully the letter, you can see that they are bad at PR too.

They even say that the rocket fell in the planned safe area. See? All according to El Plan, they are actually competent lol

No mention that this was just pure lack. If the damage or debris was a bit more, who knows, the rocket could have completely spiralled out of control and went straight to the urban area.

Garbage in, garbage out
 

by78

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A glimpse of the launch control center at the Hainan Commercial Spaceport.

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High-resolution images of the launch control center at Hainan Commercial Spaceport.

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by78

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The French made radon gas
The French built radon detector for the Chang'e-6 mission has been completed and will be shipped to China sometime next month. The instrument weighs about 4.5 kg.

The French built radon detector carried by Chang'e-6 has successfully conducted a 111-hour mapping mission of radon and polonium distribution on the moon, ionizing radiation on the lunar surface, and measured charged particles in lunar orbit. This concludes the first cooperation project between China and France in deep space exploration.

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enroger

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As far as I know, 30s test duration was programmed.
According to SP , 820t of thrust was generated during the "launch", The ISP of TH12 engine at sea level is 285s.
We can roughly calculate the stage would consume 2.9t of proprollent per sec and around 87t after the test.

if they keep the throttle straight the margin would be 30% before the test & 15% after

I won't deny the margin is low. but it's still inside the perimeter

We can call them reckless, but I don't think they are that fooilsh to make such mistake with such plain data avaliable.

That's what I'm saying, that they're quite reckless. It doesn't cost much to strengthen the clamps to give a good safety margin, they skimped where they shouldn't. From safety standpoint, even if the rocket blow up on the stand is still much much preferable then this.

Having said that I don't think the company deserved to be crucified as some angry member here expressed, a large part of the responsibilities lies with government regulatory department to make sure things like this doesn't happen again.

With the number of private space enterprises in China now it is unrealistic to expect each and everyone of them will have perfect internal discipline, it is up to the government to provide clear and precise regulation to keep everyone following the rule
 
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chlosy

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That's what I'm saying, that they're quite reckless. It doesn't cost much to strengthen the clamps to give a good safety margin, they skimped where they shouldn't. From safety standpoint, even if the rocket blow up on the stand is still much much preferable then this.

Having said that I don't think the company deserved to be crucified as some angry member here expressed, a large part of the responsibilities lies with government regulatory department to make sure things like this doesn't happen again.

With the number of private space enterprises in China now it is unrealistic to expect each and everyone of them will have perfect internal discipline, it is up to the government to provide clear and precise regulation to keep everyone following the rule
Reckless. Incompetent. Adjectives not usually attached to rocket scientists. Sabotage? Just food for thought.
 
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