China's Space Program Thread II

tiancai8888

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A team from the municipal government of Ningbo visited the Hainan Commercial Spaceport to learn from its experience. Ningbo declared its intentions to build a spaceport back in 2021, so it appears the project is moving along.

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Ningbo Spaceport will occupy an area of 67 square kilometers, of which 35 will be for the launch site, and the rest will be for various support infrastructure. The spaceport will be capable of 100 launches annually.
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Earlier bid announcements for the construction of a rocket assembly building and launch command center, totalling 4500 square meters.
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I doubt it, Current completed LC is too close to nearby civilian building. 07FKPBIGF4V7}I8_W}}Q2L9.jpg
 

gpt

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TLDR:
- Espacio Lejano Ground Station is an important part of China's CLEP and Tianwen programs
- Milei's rhetoric on China has caused some to doubt the future of this site
- There is a 50 year deal with Argentina for this site so probably nothing will happen
- China is building Queqiao III constellation to hedge against geopolitical instability as well as to improve its deep space capabilities

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taxiya

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Is China working on something like this. Coz this seems to be revolutionary if implemented successfully as it negates 1st stage for launch system.
It is useful in a vacuum like on the Moon or near vacuum on Mars where chemical propellant is hard to produce but electricity is much easier to get. It is a stupid idea on earth, stupid in that it wastes large amont of energy in fighting air friction, probably larger waste than saving.

It is not revolutionary in any sense, it is a variant of catapult which has been used for thousands years.

NASA has been working on the idea since 1980s and still not using it anywhere because it does not work on earth. Googling tells me that NASA is involved in this company. So this company just continue what NASA just dropped, or more likely NASA just offloaded something useless in the near future to some super rich people who has no better place to spend their money. There is no point of continuing such effort because they are fighting the problem (air resistance) that does not exist in its realistic application environment (outer space).

As about China, there is talk about electromagnetic space launch in a 2016 paper by Ma Weiming, the Chinese EM catapult designer. It was in conceptual/feasibility study, that is to find its use-case and needed tech, nothing in engineering phase. I'd say that China isn't going to build anything on earth, but probably use it on the moon base some time after its completion which is IMO at least after 2035, likely closer to 2040.

It is too early and premature to even talk about application (outside earth atomasphere) of such technology. As always like all the American "innovative" private space companies, creating sensational hype and visibility is the first priority, engineering value and practicality come second place.
 
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taxiya

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The open field is where they plan to launch the rocket. I mean with current situationView attachment 122792
Firstly I must correct you, you suspect that open field is the launch pad, not it is.

Secondely, I highly doubt that the 3000sqm in the table refers to the open field next to the factory. Would you launch your rocket next to your factory building? Most people won't. And other people won't allow it.

BTW, when I said the launch pad is out in the sea, I was quoting local news report <钱江晚报> whose reporter acquired this infor during the opening ceremony of the program.
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