China's Space Program Thread II

nativechicken

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I have no clue of what you are talking about.

This figure 14 (if it is from CASC) actually tells us that CASC has no intension for this "FG-1100" in CZ-9, that is countering your own argument.

Then you try to prove that CASC is wrong in designing new CZ-9's 2nd and 3rd stage as if CASC has no clue of what they are doing.

So your post is only saying that CASC should have designed CZ-9 as you wished and will eventually follow your design. You seems to be once again smarter than professionals. Have you also researched space launchers for decades like DF-21?

There is a huge difference of what eventually CASC will do and what you (a individual person) believes or wishes. I myself and many people come here to find out the first and have no interest in listening the second.


You reminds me of another self-educated expert in this forum, he claimed to be a specialist in marine engineering. I think the world never lacks "clever" people.
You must know something. The literature I posted is only an internal discussion of CASC.
It was not confirmed in the official decision.
The New Long March Nine Rocket is only in the preliminary research stage. This pre research is also the Changjiu basic model for the next 10 years.
You treat this internal discussion as a resolution, especially an unchanging decision. Is it too hasty?
You need to be familiar with the Chinese military forum, and there have been many rumors in the past that various legendary projects have been discontinued (abandoned) midway.
In 2013, almost everyone on the CD told me that a large hydrogen oxygen engine must be a gas cycle. It cannot be a supplementary combustion cycle. Now?
I said, now the Long March 9th is a conceptual drawing, and the detailed design has not yet been developed. So a bunch of questions. The design of the second and third stages of the current Long March 9 rocket differs greatly from the publicly available rocket parameters, with a height of at least 10m that cannot match.
As for me, am I better than the designers at CASC? The design department of CASC only acknowledges that under the premise of reuse, large-diameter light rod rockets are more conducive to reuse, so it is the next research direction. There is no public statement that the plan has been determined, especially in terms of technical details. And now the details of the new Changjiu prove that this rocket is still in the early process of refining the overall basic parameters. This stage has not been completed and detailed design cannot proceed.
I said these obviously imperfect designs are not the final design of the Long March 9th. Is it wrong? Do you have any opinions?
Don't scare me with CASC. I added a group, and the group leader's ID is Long Lehao(退而不休的航天人 龙乐豪).

I mentioned more about the Long March 9 in that group, criticizing the configuration of the starship. Forward more different opinions on NSF.
You don't know, the suggestion from many people on the NSF forum in the United States is how to change the starship to the current state of the CZ9 (consumable rocket upper stage). The current starship design is basically of no help to US aerospace in the short term. It's hard to say if the future will be helpful. The biggest problem with starships is the integrated architecture of the two-stage rocket. The technical difficulty of leaving the cabin with super large loads is much greater than what ordinary enthusiasts think. This issue has never been addressed in domestic literature on aerospace starships.
 

taxiya

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You must know something. The literature I posted is only an internal discussion of CASC.
To be clear, when I said "I have no clue of what you are talking about" I meant what you were trying to say were full of personal imagination.

None of those ppts that you posted are internal infor that we don't know already.

If you really want to prove that you are so better than CASC or at least know more about Chinese rocket programs than rest of us here, tell us who you are? Where do you work for a living?
 
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by78

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The barrel section of a newly developed 3.35-meter-diameter propellant tank has recently passed strength and airtightness tests. Compared to previous propellant tanks, which are constructed by welding four separate curved pieces together to form the barrel (with four weld seams), this new tank is made from a single roll-formed panel, with its two ends welded together to form the barrel (one weld seam only).

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by78

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A satellite jointly developed by China and Egypt, called Egypt-2 (埃及二号), is undergoing final assembly at the Egyptian Satellite Assembly Integration Test Center (AITC) located in New Cairo, Egypt. Both the Egypt-2 and the AITC were part of a
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signed back in 2014 and which are now coming to fruition.

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The ground station for Egypt-2 satellite
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. The facility will now begin trial operations.

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taxiya

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The barrel section of a newly developed 3.35-meter-diameter propellant tank has recently passed strength and airtightness tests. Compared to previous propellant tanks, which are constructed by welding four separate curved pieces together to form the barrel (with four weld seams), this new tank is made from a single roll-formed panel, with its two ends welded together to form the barrel (one weld seam only).

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Which institute made it? Is it related to the recent report of "pressure formed bulkhead"?
 

by78

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Beijing i-Space (also known as Interstellar Glory, Space Honor, Beijing Interstellar Glory Space Technology, StarCraft Glory, Interplanetary Glory, Interplanetary Glory Space Technology, so on and on and on) has moved its SQX-2Y VTVL technology verification rocket to a launchpad at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. A test flight appears imminent. SQX-2Y has a diameter of 3.35m and is powered by the Focus-1 (JD-1) LOX/Methane engine.

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by78

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DeepBlue has conducted another whole-system test run of the reusable Thunder-R1 LOX/kerosene engine, with a duration of 30 seconds. The engine will now enter a more intensive test phase focused on multiple ignition and reliability testing in order to prepare for the first orbital VTVL test of the Nebula-1 rocket in the second half of this year.

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DeepBlue has successfully completed a 120-second test run of its reusable Thunder-R1 LOX/kerosene engine.

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DeepBlue has successful completed a multiple-start test of its Thunder-R1 engine. The test involved three ignitions and shutdowns during the single hot run.

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DeepBlue's reusable Thunder-R1 LOX/kerosene engine has successfully completed its first long-duration (single ignition) hot test, with the test lasting 420 seconds (over twice the expected flight time of the 1st stage of the Nebua-1 rocket). The cumulative test run time on the engine has now reached 2,000 seconds.

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taxiya

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It was developed by the 8th Institute of CASC. I don't believe this is related to the recent news of the hydroformed bulkhead, because the diameters are different.

Their diameters are the same 3.35m. But you are right, the two are not related because this latest tank is apparently for upper stage. While the recent hydroformed bulkhead is for CZ-5 booster.


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by78

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Their diameters are the same 3.35m. But you are right, the two are not related because this latest tank is apparently for upper stage. While the recent hydroformed bulkhead is for CZ-5 booster.


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That must have been a generic photo inserted into an article for illustration purposes, which I didn't catch at the time. The actual bulkhead has a
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P.S. Here's a
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published by the developer on the hydroforming process.
 
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