China's Space Program Thread II

gelgoog

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Engines from all countries including US such as RS-25, RS-68 and F-1 are "static", having only one quoted figures.
There are several improved variants for all these engines. There were the RS-25A/B/C/D for the RS-25 engine. There was the RS-68A for the RS-68. And there was the F-1A for the F-1. Plus many other variants which were studied and never quite finished testing and production.
 

taxiya

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There are several improved variants for all these engines. There were the RS-25A/B/C/D for the RS-25 engine. There was the RS-68A for the RS-68. And there was the F-1A for the F-1. Plus many other variants which were studied and never quite finished testing and production.
But I think non of them has such vast "improvement" steps like Merlins. They are more akin to the variants of YF-100.
 

gelgoog

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Oh yes they do. In the RS-25 (SSME) for example they redesigned the powerhead, the turbopumps, and the combustion chamber.
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The Block II SSME is basically a new engine.

There were even plans to switch the nozzle to a channel wall nozzle design with Block III but that got cancelled after the Columbia Shuttle accident.

Later variants of the SSME had integrated diagnostics electronics inside the engine and were much more reliable. Early engines required the engine to be disassembled after each flight and inspected, and they kept increasing time between inspections on later variants. Component lifetime increased. Later variants could run at 113% power level.
 
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gelgoog

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As for the people here who wanted YF-100 enhanced variants to happen sooner. You just have to look at the number of flights. Quite often upgraded variants are only made after either a substantial number of flights is done which identifies bottlenecks in the current design, or mission requirements change.
 

eprash

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as per CCTV

The electromagnetic ejection microgravity experimental device mentioned a few days ago is just the beginning. The experimental time of the currently built device is 4 seconds. In the future, a device with an experimental time of 20 seconds will be built. It is necessary to build an 800-meter -long electromagnetic ejection track.

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This actually has solid commercial applications if scaled up and human rated properly the cheapest way you can experience zero g these days is with NASA's parabolic flights and they cost roughly USD 8k+ this would be inherently cheaper and safe, RIP to Virgin Galactic and Blue Origin's suborbital tourism
 

coolgod

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The electromagnetic ejection microgravity experimental device mentioned a few days ago is just the beginning. The experimental time of the currently built device is 4 seconds. In the future, a device with an experimental time of 20 seconds will be built. It is necessary to build an 800-meter -long electromagnetic ejection track.

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From the video it looks like a giant coilgun in disguise. A little sad it wasn't a railgun though.
 

Quickie

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So Falcon 9 is operational much "earlier" compared to the shuttle in multiple steps, it gives the impression of continious improvement. In my analog, Merlin FT and RS-25's 190t are the 100 dollar, SpaceX delivered 100 dollar in five 20 dollar bills over many years, while RS-25 delivered one 100 dollar bills at once.

Is there a version of Merlin Rocket Engine that is 190t?

As far as I know, the latest variant is over 80t, sea level.
 
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by78

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An interview of the private launch provider Galactic Energy, conducted by Dongfan Four at the Paris Air Show. If you prefer reading to watching,
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of the interview. If you don't have time for either, here's a brief summary of the main points:
1) Six to eight launches are planned for Ceres-1 in the second half of this year, two of which will be sea launches from the Haiyang Spaceport (a.k.a Dongfeng Spaceport). The company is aiming for up to 20 launches of Ceres-1 between 2023 and 2024.
2) Maiden flight of Pallas-1 rocket is planned for the second half of 2024. Launch site not yet determined, with possible candidates being Wenchang or Taiyuan. The rocket is currently undergoing final assembly testing, and its engine (Cāngqióng/苍穹) continues to undergo test runs.
3) Pallas-1 will not be reusable in the beginning, but a reusable version is being actively developed, which will be necessary for the company's goals of providing space tourism in 10 years and astroid mining in 20 years.
4) The company hopes to provide launch services to the planned Xingwang internet constellation, which will have some 12,000 satellites.
5) A version of Pallas-1 with two strap-on boosters is on the roadmap, payload capacity to LEO will be 14 tons.


Galactic Energy has completed verification of its landing control algorithms by using a scale rocket called Firebird-1 (火鸟一号).

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